andiroid

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  • @andiroid Uhhh…I don’t see anything planned at your address.

    If BEP and P2P fiber are available (status BEP-ready), you can click on “switch to fiber” in mySwisscom. The order is then checked internally and a corresponding email is sent with the next steps. It mentions that the construction partner’s dispatch department will call you to schedule the OTO can.

    Requirement: The fiber optic contract has been signed and returned and an inspection with location of the OTO has been carried out.

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    Roger G.
    Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access

  • andiroid Unfortunately there won’t be any statements from me. Just situation analyzes and nothing from the crystal ball. I’m just wondering what it’ll do for you if you become fully aware of what’s happening in the community right down to the buildings.

    Fact 1: The mCAN in this area was built at the time to relieve the PUS, as it was running full due to the new buildings. That’s why there are customers who are still stuck on the PUS and have to make do with around 100mbps and others who have been attached to the mCAN. At the beginning it was a VDSL mCAN (same speed as from PUS), which was changed to g.Fast in the normal exchange. Hence the different speeds.

    Fact 2: The checker displays the data as well as it exists. I will never say that the data is 100% correct, there is no such thing. The human factor is crucial here. If a change is not entered, then the information is no longer correct. And we deliberately do not show the actual value (measured), because in the event of problems and stabilizations, the value could deviate significantly from the target value (management qualification).

    Why does your FTTH planning look like a patchwork quilt? We need mCAN for processing so that we have enough reserve. The WEKO Gedöns has pushed back the plans for the transition from FTTS to FTTH. This means that the mCANs have to stay in the ground longer and we need enough replacement stock when they go into the eternal hunting grounds. That’s why these mCANs are partially built over and immediately taken out of the shaft for overhaul. I don’t know, but that could actually be the plan here, as the map matches the mCAN locations quite well. And there is no need to add a feeder for the time being, because enough spares of the fiber optic connections from the mCAN to the headquarters can apparently be used. A 48p mCAN only uses 2 fibers and a significantly larger cable is often connected. That’s why the “lucky ones” who already have g.Fast and then get FTTH even earlier than others 😁 And believe me, they might be happier with FTTH because the want-to-have factor is fulfilled. And there are also those who choose the high speed.

    Dismantling of the headquarters possible. This is also an issue because the number of headquarters in the country must be reduced. If this is the case here, then it is definitely not worth putting a feeder there now. Only when the situation there is clear can FTTH be planned further.
    Simply for the feeling, on the map every orange flag is FTTS, every yellow FTTB, pink is a PUS and green (barely visible) is a RUS (CO, headquarters). In this section alone there are 4 control centers which, with the elimination of FTTS, no longer have to accommodate remote feeds from the mCAN. I think you could get by with 2 CO there and so the feeder could come from somewhere else.

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    On the subject of anger, believe me, this is a minority who are “waiting” for FTTH. How many voice-only customers are there in your community, for example, or those with Internet S who were previously satisfied with 20, then 40mbps. Or those customers who really wanted FTTH in other areas, called again and again and reduced their subscription to 100mbps two months after they were migrated because they didn’t notice any difference compared to before. It’s exactly the same for me, because until 2 days ago I had 100/36 with DSL or 290/70 with Booster and now 10gbps…but the customer experience has remained absolutely the same. Nothing has changed.

    But if we build FTTH, then it should also be migrated asap, because these are the idle investments that Swisscom had to make with the expensive feeder migration. And every network element that I can switch off saves additional electricity and reduces operational effort on the DSL side.

    So, now @andiroid no longer has sleepless nights, knows why “weird” buildings are built for him and why others still have a tube television at home 🤗

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    Roger G.
    Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access

  • @andiroid

    I consider the order of feeder, drop and in-house connection for FTTH to be fundamentally irrelevant from a construction point of view, so any combination of them probably occurs in practice.

    What is built is simply what can be carried out well in terms of planning and geography as a single stage.

    The actual commissioning is of course only possible when the P2P connection between the OTO socket and CO (= central office, often this is the local headquarters) is available throughout, i.e. all 3 individual construction stages have actually been completed.

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    Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom

  • Hello @andiroid

    In the past, the copper cable was sometimes buried directly without an empty conduit… and you have to dig.

    And if it has an empty pipe, it doesn’t always mean that there is still space in it.

    The other problem is that in certain areas the ground sinks and then the pipe has a kink in it and then you can’t get anything through or out again.

    It’s like in houses, in certain houses large empty pipes were installed, and in others only super small ones…

    And if the house is old you have lead pipes in it with 90* angles, etc. You can no longer use them.

    And then there are super hero electricians who fill the empty pipe in the basement where the DSL comes out with silicone……. Great, you have to remove the silicone first before you can put anything in.

    Greetings Lorenz

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  • @andiroid wrote:


    Yes, we are slowly running out of patience here. My fiber has been lying unused in the ground for 1.5 years now. Swisscom has nothing smarter in mind and is appealing against the ComCo ruling, so that even more time is wasted. (…)

    (…)but because the network monopolist has (unnecessarily) chosen the path through the authorities.

    Just to clarify: it will be rebuilt parallel to the ongoing process one way or another.

    The only problem is that there are very, very many connections that have to be checked and converted piece by piece. Analysis, planning, drawing, civil engineering, permits, pulling out and tightening cables and splicing… But hey - things are moving forward 💪

    Greetings Stefan

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    Ich bin ein als Privatkunde getarnter Swisscom-Mitarbeiter im Bereich Service Continuity.

  • Hello @andiroid

    If you have fiber optic, you can simply look at the old router to see whether it has a blue plug or the new one has a red plug.

    Sooner or later everyone will switch to the red plug GPON.

    And the blue plug is a P2P connection

    The red plug has a splitter installed somewhere, usually in the control center.
    It is important that you use an approved router first comment third-party router.

    And if I have a ticket as a technician that says something is wrong with the speed, I either attach my EXFO speed measuring device to the Anschluss or a current Internet box and take the measurement.

    But most of the time when the Anschluss shows up, it’s the customer’s fault that the fiber optic cables were improperly laid, the cables were rolled up too tightly, stuffed behind the TV wall so that you can see the bend when you look behind it, certain cats also like cables and bite them.

    Please lay your fiber optic cable cleanly from the OTO socket.

    Greetings Lorenz

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  • @user109 wrote:

    @andiroid maybe somewhere else, the 50Hz has to be coupled onto the line from somewhere.


    ISDN would simply have to eliminate the 50Hz network frequency? The frequencies of 300-3400Hz are used and 50Hz hum should not be disturbing. But yes: If @Veittammo28 cannot temporarily connect the devices directly to the Fritzbox (?) then I see few options for analysis with our 🔮.

    I am a trained electronics engineer and not a Stomer. Could the problem also have its origins in the 230V installation? 🤷‍

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  • @Herby wrote:

    @andiroid

    Correct.
    and I think whoever did this installation back then probably didn’t read or understand “the manual” for ISDN installation; - )


    What exactly!? 😉 You have identified the problem, should @Veittammo28 now read the ISDN installation manual?

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  • @andiroid wrote:


    @Samsi wrote:

    Please don’t be angry, but that is a typical statement of a certain naivety.


    To stay a bit off-topic: I find it more respectful if the person who triggered the discussion can come to this conclusion within his own four walls. Despite your benevolent introduction, someone who is publicly given this attribute is unlikely to speak out publicly again. In his position, I always felt shut down and silenced.


    I can’t quite follow you there. Shouldn’t we warn you about dubious companies and possible fake reviews on Trustpilot? If you want to take on such a risky business, it’s your own fault if the money is gone. But you have your opinion, others have a different one. Accept these too before you reprimand everyone here.

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  • @andiroid wrote:


    @Samsi wrote:

    There is a high risk that you will lose a lot of money! For me, the story here isn’t clean; there’s something really wrong with it! It’s best to change your phone number straight away.


    He never said he was doing it himself. So far it is at most his interlocutor based in Cyprus. And there too - as I understand the arguments - it’s all about free mobile telephony. And someone who doesn’t have the money for a decent subscription doesn’t have the money to gamble either? 😉


    And what do we learn from this? In the end, it’s always about the money. If not today, then tomorrow! I would like to emphasize once again that everyone is responsible for their own actions and actions. Constantly changing numbers because supposedly there’s no other way…? Just hearing that sounds alarm bells in my head. Clean companies don’t work this way.

    But yes, you’re right, he just asked about the calls and whether there was a way to distinguish them from spam, because it’s always a different number. The answer has already been given here, which is: No. That should say everything here.

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  • @andiroid

    If the caller always changes his profile, which is caused by changing numbers.

    The constant change of the identity shown certainly has a special motive that not everyone can understand! This is nothing out of the ordinary. It’s just suspicious if a profile picture appears on multiple accounts with correspondingly different names and numbers.

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    Installationen, Netzwerk, Internet, Computertechnik, OS Windows, Apple und Linux.


  • @andiroid wrote:

    […] @PowerMac: What is your use case for the high upstream bandwidth? Live HDMI video transmission? Do you have the right HW/SW solution that can convert the stream at a high frame rate?

    😉


    Correct, the use case is live video streaming, but not HDMI but already compressed using a streaming encoder (something like this).

    Thanks for your experiences and hardware tips, I’ll test it with a 5G router and report back to you about the results here.

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    Have you tried turning it off and on again?


  • @user109 wrote:

    @andiroid who said anything about router cascade? There was more talk of replacing the router SME (CB2.0) -> RES (IB3)

    Oops. Sorry, I must have missed that. 😇

    The problem with the Fritzboxes is that SIP telephony via SC doesn’t run smoothly (OneWay problem), regardless of internal or external SIP credentials, and it doesn’t matter whether the FB is connected via a router cascade or direct connection.

    Otherwise I would have suggested it long ago.

    I haven’t noticed the OneWay problem for a long time (several years). 😉 This disappeared either through a SW update from AVM or through Swisscom magic.

    I solved this with the Fritzbox and telephony via the S0 port (2 phone numbers (CB2.0+FB)) and it works reliably for me.

    The remaining phone numbers are registered in the FB via SIP call (3) via SIP credentials.

    that works reliably for me.

    OK. After all, we agree that the FB supports multiple numbers/providers without any problems. 🙂

    These are my experiences with FB and SIP telephony.


    Thanks for sharing. When was the last time you tried something where the audio didn’t work properly?

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  • @andiroid who said anything about router cascade?

    There was more talk of replacing the router SME (CB2.0) -> RES (IB3)

    Your suggested solution unfortunately doesn’t work properly, so we’ll forget it again,

    but thanks anyway.

    I have an inOneKMU Anschluss (Copper) and a inOne RES Anschluss with Fiber and have a Fritzbox7595 with the latest FW.

    The problem with the Fritzboxes is that SIP telephony via SC does not run smoothly (OneWay problem), regardless of internal or external SIP credentials, and it does not matter whether the FB is connected via a router cascade or a direct connection.

    Otherwise I would have suggested it long ago.

    I solved this with the Fritzbox and telephony via the S0 port (2 phone numbers (CB2.0+FB)) and it works reliably for me.

    The remaining phone numbers are registered in the FB with SIP Call (3) via SIP credentials.

    that works reliably for me.

    These are my experiences with FB and SIP telephony.

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  • @andiroid wrote:

    Yay! Then we will all finally have an innovative, affordable fiber optic network! I look forward to it!

    Oh, wait… crap, he’s not building one… happy too soon…

    @kaetho: Are you actually of the opinion that true competition only arises when fiber optic networks that exist in parallel are built? For now, I’ll stick to my stance: It’s better to have a P2P network that promotes competition later than a cemented P2MP network that will last for 20 years today.

    I wouldn’t mind if init7 itself actively helped to expand the network, which you criticize. Then I would also have the legitimacy to complain if someone else doesn’t build like that.

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