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As already noted in the previous article, the Internet boxes have for some time now been absolutely “power strip switch compatible” even on copper connections, meaning they can simply be switched off at any time and only switched on again when necessary.

In fact, this is by far the most resource-efficient option, because it only needs electricity when you are actively using it.

The disadvantages in use are actually minor:

- Additional 30-60 seconds startup time for the router

- additional 2-3 minutes startup time for the new TV-Box 5

- Occasionally you will miss an automatic update, but this can be done at any time

However, you won’t be able to achieve huge savings with this because the power consumption of the router is only around 10 watts.

PS: With regard to line stabilization, the only thing that needs to be avoided is that the DSL cable is unplugged during ongoing operation, or that repeated firmware updates are carried out when the DSL line is active, but outside the official service windows

Hi @daffy2

Thank you for reporting, we will take a look at it.

Greeting
Manuel

@daffy2 Unfortunately no success. Router only syncs on vectoring. You can reboot him to see if he wants to get involved with g.Fast. Your neighbor in the same house who also has Swisscom syncs at 350mbps. She could have 400mbps, but the BridgedTap that she still has in the apartment prevents this. If she lives on the ground floor and you live upstairs, then the line length is certainly longer for you, but then you would probably still be able to get 300 or 350 mbps.

From my point of view, the connection to the mCAN is not ideal, i.e. the BBR installation, starting with the cable from the router to the socket, socket itself, U72 to the UP, UP to the socket and before there to the mCAN. Ev. It would have been better to leave it with the old “bell wire” if everything still worked there.

If a reboot of the IB2 doesn’t help, then you have to go to the hotline and say that you are nowhere near getting the speed as stated by the checker. However, your neighbor in the same house has significantly more speed. The usual procedure will then be followed and an appointment with a technician will be made. If the technician thinks that the in-house line is simply too long, then point it out to the neighbor as well. The difference in length cannot be the cause, unless someone rolled up the U72 over 50m.

Unfortunately I can’t do more 🙄

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@daffy2 wrote:

For some time now there has been no bell wire from the HUP to the socket - that was the BB-something service from Swisscom.

By the way, I’m trying to curb the competition from Swisscom in the neighborhood; Their cable modem breaks down every 2-3 days…

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BBR Socket = BroadBandReady including the U72 from the UP to the socket. Always a good investment. Unfortunately, we cannot see in any way what is installed between the UP and the router in which apartment or house. With FTTB the indication is the line attenuation. Of course, this changes with g.Fast with the high frequencies. I’ll change it on Monday morning. I think there won’t be any problems.

Have a nice weekend everyone

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@Roger G wrote:

@daffy2 I took a closer look at the story. And yes, I know the buildings there very well, because the one in the last house is poor because of the cable length from the G4 mCAN (FTTB with g.Fast) 🙄

Hi @Roger G - now my eyes are really big 🤣

Yes, you can switch without hesitation (even on Monday itself) - I still have a lifeline with Swisscom 4G+ 😉 I will definitely give feedback promptly.

For some time now there has been no bell wire from the HUP to the socket - that was the BB-something service from Swisscom.

By the way, I’m trying to keep the neighborhood away from Swisscom competition; Their cable modem breaks down every 2-3 days…

@daffy2 I took a closer look at the story. And yes, I know the buildings there very well, because the one in the last house is poor because of the cable length from the G4 mCAN (FTTB with g.Fast) 🙄

Basically the copper wire is not a problem as all other three parties in the house have around 400mbps. However, your profile was switched incorrectly - or was deliberately set to VDSL2 because there were some problems with g.Fast. But that must have been much longer than 6 mt.

I can switch you to the correct profile quickly, but if there are problems, I won’t be able to intervene again until Monday. Please let me know if it’s ok.

Best regards

PS: @5018 we do not exchange G3 FTTB.

Hello @daffy2

If you want to be sure, you have to have a technician take a measurement at the UP. He then sees whether the CRC or other values ​​are not as they should be.

As a technician, I always take a measurement on the UP so I know in which direction the fault is going.

Brige tape can also cause a problem, or an old TT83 can, etc…

If the faults are also there on the UP, Swisscom has to correct it and it won’t cost you anything…

Your connection may only be running on one wire and the technician can determine that, if that’s the case you don’t have full speed either.

Greetings Lorenz

Hello @daffy2

Do you perhaps use Powerline at home?

These things can also trigger CRC.

Greetings Lorenz

@daffy2

Normally the information comes in German if you change the language in the menu in the top right corner.

The password works well if you e.g. uses a capital letter and a hyphen.

@daffy2

Move your BT base by 1m and it’s good.

@daffy2 I think you can kill your neighbor’s WiFi with 20-30 watts of directional radiation (Yagi antenna) 😂.

Attention in the frequency range 2.400 GHz - 2.4835 GHz the maximum radiated power must not exceed 100 mW (EIRP*) (officially permitted).

@daffy2 an aluminum foil or as described in the video can help. Or you can install a 2.4 GHz directional beam transmitter of several watts (it’s illegal) then you’ll have peace of mind for a few days or weeks until the neighbor has a new router.

@daffy2

So the fact that a problem can arise for the Bluetooth of normal 2.4GHz Internet WLAN would now be new to me.

I have neighbors on the left, right and above who are only separated by a wall with a 2.4GHz WLAN from Swisscom, Sunrise, UPC and Salt and no problems with Bluetooth.

Why do you come to this conclusion that you have a problem?

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@daffy2: I’m guessing there’s a troublemaker somewhere who’s completely screwing up the DS, because the US isn’t actually that bad. Sure, it’s also impaired, but not as bad as the DS. There’s probably nothing left but to check all the connections to find the culprit.

But there won’t be much movement towards fiber optics in the near future. The location is already planned because it has glass in the technical room, but because of g.Fast it will probably be a tertiary place on the list. Therefore, we should first get the location to work so that everything runs well. I’m working with the technicians to ensure that we start a comprehensive analysis.

@daffy2 Did you do BBR yourself, or what did the technician measure on the UP?

@daffy2 House connection = UP (see picture you took T+T box) from there via the loop sockets (underground car park, apartment)

Pull a U72M 1×2 cable to your telephone socket where the router is connected.

@daffy2 You can order the BBR installation via 0800 800 800. I hope the supporter comes with what you mean. Unfortunately, not all people are tech-savvy as they should be. A technician from Swisscom (Cablex) will come and replace the cables and issue you an extra invoice that you can easily pass on to the landlord.

Only the route UP (house connection) -> telephone socket router (apartment) is swapped. Incl. telephone socket (T+T83) on RJ45 Anschluss (purple).

@daffy2 in the photo you can see I52 cable, not U72M!!!. I52 cable can have a lot of attenuation, i.e. less speed and also be very susceptible to interference (crosstalk). G.Fast has frequencies of up to 104 MHz on the DSL line, which is the VHF radio frequency. The cables photographed are unspecified and unsuitable for this purpose. It’s best to have the cables replaced; the flat rate from Swisscom (CHF 195) is usually covered by the landlord (please clarify in advance).

The whole installation is called BBR installation. (Broad Band Ready).