From the end customer’s perspective, a problem is only a problem when they perceive it as such, for example because something no longer works. And this is precisely the case that does not occur thanks to the dual stack.

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@MichelB wrote:

Thanks for the lively discussion and questions.


@MichelB: Thank you (Swisscom) for taking the trouble to take a stand here.

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So is it correct that IPv6 on the RES network also has to be activated for third-party routers and that no (missing) switch has to be pressed anywhere or that a Swisscom router has to be plugged into the Anschluss first?

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Do you have internal statistics showing which third-party routers generate IPv6 packets? Or to put it another way: Are there third-party routers that work with IPv6 on the Swisscom network? That would be an important addition to my support request at AVM…

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Renewal interval of the dynamic IPv6 prefix

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@MichelB: What is the reason why you don’t distribute static prefixes on the RES connections when the competition has been doing it for a long time without any problems? There are already use cases for this today: Decentralized backups to the NAS of the Eltern or from the NAS of the Eltern,… I would like to finally switch off this stupid DynDNS infrastructure.

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[…] I can’t say in detail how to set up a Fritzbox so that it works with IPv6. However, I will have the experts check whether we can make recommendations.

Of course you get an extra medal for this. 🎖️ Thank you! I think that you will already find a FB model in your laboratory. If I can help with a packet capture on the WAN interface, let me know. I feel like this over there is not about bashing and I definitely understand the problems you have with the variety of routers. In this respect, I really appreciate your support here and would be happy to donate some time. Just win-win.

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Let us know if you find anything out.

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As I wrote, my approach with a third-party router

1. IPv6 activated on third-party router, result: no IPv6 prefix

2. Old Swisscom Internet Box attached, updated, reset, IPv6 activated, result: IPv6 prefix

3. Third-party router attached again, result: IPv6 prefix

So you need a Swisscom router to change the flag on the Anschluss so that you get IPv6, then it also works with the third-party router

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@kaetho wrote:

Did it work for you too?


No, this is still the status quo. I got rid of my IB1 with the introduction of SIP credentials… But I’ll have to get glass soon and then upgrade the router infrastructure.

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@Peiffegreu33 wrote:

As I wrote, my approach with third-party routers […]

So you need a Swisscom router to change the flag on the Anschluss so that you get IPv6, then it also works with the third-party router


Yeah right. Would be valid at most as a work-around. Nevertheless, I would like first-hand information:

  1. Swisscom supports standard XY and third-party routers must install feature Z so that the third-party router works smoothly with IPv6. (“Error” with the third-party router manufacturer)
  2. The I-Büxes use a proprietary feature A to activate IPv6 and users of third-party routers must a) tilt the bowl in Kundencenter or b) can contact the hotline or c) have the temporary use of an I-Büxe activated for IPv6. (“Error” at Swisscom)

And these are already clues which [here](https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/hilfe/geraet/internet-router/ Fremdrouter.html) - alongside others discussed in this thread - are still missing .

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@kaetho wrote:

Did it work for you too?


Still not. The specific response from AVM is recorded here.

Apart from the work-arounds already described (see above):

Does anyone have a third-party router on the Swisscom RES network that gets an IPv6 prefix without any problems or tricks? Or to put it another way: Do I have a specific problem with my third-party router, or does Swisscom have a general problem with activating IPv6 on third-party routers? Who doesn’t adhere to the protocol specification?

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Could someone who has a third-party router and IPv6 working properly log the DHCPv6 sequence on the WAN port and post it here anonymously?

The main thread with my problem is in progress here. The cross-posting should target the non-Fritzbox third-party routers or the functioning IBs.

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Challenge accepted!?

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Here as a reference is the update from the other thread other thread - even without SC router You can get an IA_PD reproducibly and quickly with Fritzbox 7583. Details are recorded there.

I can provide Wireshark traces for “correct” DHCPv6 with Ftizbox upon request.

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@wwe wrote:

here as a reference the update from the other thread other thread - even without SC You can reproducibly and quickly get an IA_PD with Fritzbox 7583. Details are recorded there.

Bunny takes revenge. You already won the challenge over there. 😁 You too: 🎖️

For everyone who doesn’t understand this. The question in Post 36 (above) was solved like this: that the frit was not understood with the BNG. The problem can be repaired with a configuration change in the frit and that this will be resolved until the next [release](https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Router-Hardware/IPv6-nativ-mit-FritzBox/m-p /742195#M42657) may still show up on a third-party router.

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4G / 5G Booster: Doesn’t support IPV6 yet, as far as I know.

Since most of my data traffic goes via booster (50-80Mbit/s down, 50 up), and only a little via copper (max. 12Mbit/s down, 1Mbit/s up), all devices (5-person Household) is significantly “slower” when traveling with IPV6 activated… because the booster is effectively no longer used. Especially noticeable when uploading.

Is there already an update regarding the booster?

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A completely new solution e2e is needed. It is being worked on and will probably come in 2023. This can then handle IPv6 and UDP traffic, etc.

Since we already looked at the solution in 2019 and wanted to implement it, I can’t say why it’s taking so long. You probably have other priorities.

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@inane: 4G / 5G Booster: Doesn’t support IPV6 yet, as far as I know.

My mobile phone doesn’t get an IPv6 address in the Swisscom network, so the booster won’t get one either. Because I don’t have a booster, that remains an assertion.

@5018: A completely new solution is needed e2e. It is being worked on and will probably come in 2023. This can then handle IPv6 and UDP traffic, etc.

What is an e2e solution? Try to avoid unusual abbreviations for the laypeople in the forum… 😉

Could I use this to implement a 4G / 5G module on Raspi as a remote control and monitoring of a mobile chicken coop trailer? I mean, if I get a quasi-static IPv6, there will probably also be IPv6 DynDNS, which could save the server… That was a project idea that was unfortunately rejected by the client. 🤷

Sorry for this further step into the off-topic, but… 😇

Äs Greetings

Android

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@andiroid What is an e2e solution? e2e solution is an End to End solution.

What is an end-to-end solution? An end-to-end process is a process that consists of all sub-processes that follow each other in a timely and logical manner and are necessary to fulfill a specific customer need.

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An end-to-end process is a process that consists of all sub-processes that follow each other in a timely and logical manner and are necessary to fulfill a specific customer need.


<Irony style=“off-topic”> Your answer can’t be correct because I’ve read several times in this forum that customers don’t care whether they have IPv6 or not. And therefore have no need for it…</irony>

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Goodnight!

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@andiroid

End-to-end can mean very different things depending on the context:

In a communication system such as telephony, this means the entire distance from the mouth of participant A (or the microphone on side A) to the ear of participant B (or the loudspeaker).

In freight forwarding, end-to-end can mean, for example, the delivery of a freight item from the sender to the recipient, including all framework conditions and accompanying processes.

For a product, the end-to-end process can mean the entire life cycle from the raw material for the product at the beginning of the chain to the recycling of the product where it is broken down back into the raw materials.

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