Hello @cybi

Swisscom only made the plug red to make it easier for the customer.

Support what color is your plug?

Answer Blue…

Answer Support you have the wrong cable, so it can’t work……..

That made him blush.

The only difference between green and built plugs is the sleep of the plug….

One slept straight and the other slept at an angle.

So if you are color blind and put blue on green, there is too much of a distance, which then results in too much attenuation.

Greetings Lorenz

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@Lori-77 @Thanks for the input, it is well known that SC runs its own course here.
I was only concerned with green or blue, APC or UPC, since the module mentioned apparently doesn’t use the same as the Fritzbox or IB

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10 days later

I ordered my Anschluss from green.ch, but the line is still from Swisscom.

green rents the BBCS service from Swisscom. Swisscom provides layers 1 and 2 and then only hands over layer 3 to Green.

There I should configure VLAN ID 10, which is the same as the ALL-BM410 module.

All BBCS services from Swisscom require VLAN 10 for DHCP or VLAN 11 for PPP.

Then set option 43 in DHCP Options. The ALL-BM410 module does not have this option at all.

  1. The SFP module cannot use DHCP! You can simply imagine the module as a section of the cable. The cable doesn’t do DHCP, your DM does DHCP.
  2. Option 43 is used by Green to provide the router with an ACS URL. This does not have to be configured for the request, but is sent by Swisscom in the response (and can be ignored)
  3. Option 60 in the request is only relevant for Swisscom’s own services; it is not needed for all third-party ISPs (green, iway, whatever).

[edit] So in short: You configure your DM exactly the same as for a Swisscom Anschluss, simply without DHCP option 60.

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Configuration (ONT/OLT) and operation is done by Green.

ONT/OLT is made by Swisscom, which is why an XGS-PON ONT must also be Swisscom certified.

Green may provide an ONT and pre-configure it for the customer, but the entire OMCI stack is managed by Swisscom.

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Thanks @robii. I have now received the same information from green support. Now I’ll wait until the line comes next week.

The DM is prepared, cable plugged in.

I can then test in 8 days.

Thanks for your help, even if I’m in the wrong channel. I’ll post next week to see if it works.

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14 days later

So the UDM SE with an ALL-BM410 bridge from Allnet works perfectly on a Green.ch Fiber Anschluss.

The only thing that cost me nerves was getting the Swisscom registration page on the screen. This didn’t happen automatically and only when I reconnected to the WLAN, even though I was connected to the LAN the whole time.

But once I figured it out, it worked.

After registration there was an error message from the Swisscom registration page, but about 15 minutes later my Anschluss was up and running and has been working perfectly and without any interruptions since then.

I’m extremely satisfied.

Many thanks to everyone for your support

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    3 months later

    My connection is currently still on P2MP or XGS-PON, but apparently it will be converted back to P2P (AON) this year? Will the ALL-BM410 module then be superfluous?
    I got fibre optics when the house was built and all my neighbours have since been upgraded to P2P, but I was told when the neighbours were upgraded that my connection would also be converted.

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      Siepiegreu83 You misunderstand P2P and P2M. Additional optical fibres are pulled to the central office so that every ISP can connect the customer directly (P2P). Regardless of whether XGSPON, BX (AON) or other technologies the ISP delivers to your home.

      Swisscom switches off BX (AON) bit by bit in the central offices if XGSPON is available.

      Swisscom will continue to build mostly XGS-PON, but in a legal design, Bakom-compliant.
      Note: P2P is also possible with XGS-PON. Only the position of the optical splitter is decisive:
      - Splitter in the building = no P2P possible = illegal
      - Splitter in the control centre = P2P possible = legal
      Both designs = XGS-PON

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        Explained the other way round:

        P2P and P2MP are physical construction methods of the fibres between the central office and the end customer connection.
        With P2P, there is at least one private continuous fibre per individual customer between the customer and the central office, whereas with P2MP customers have to share fibres on the way to the central office.

        XGS-PON and AON (called BX at Swisscom) are pure transmission protocols, i.e. they determine the exact structure of the signal that is transmitted via the fibre, depending on the physical design:

        • with P2P construction, the provider can use either XGS-PON or direct AON at the centre
        • In the case of P2MP construction (now prohibited by antitrust law), only XGS-PON would have been technically possible, as with a shared medium with shared fibre on the “last mile”, all customers could only be served with a uniform standardised signal.
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          Werner Then the splitter would have to be removed wherever the conversion is carried out so that my fibre goes directly into the central unit. Conversely, this means that if I can still find the ALL-BM410 somewhere, it will continue to work regardless of the conversion. As long as I stay with Swisscom after the upgrade, I could switch to fibre7, for example, and would then be connected P2P.

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            I am now also in possession of a GBIC - I bought the “Allnet ALL-BM410” this week and come from the Zyxel PM7300 bridge mode. As @bosi wrote - unplug the glass from the Zyxel - plug it into the ALL-BM410 - and wait.

            What are your experiences with the temperature of the “ALL-BM410”?

            The GBIC already gets very warm/hot for me:

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