@swissbeetle

-57 dBm and -65 dBm are good values, why isn’t an expected higher speed displayed in your Kundencenter is strange?

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@hed wrote:

Does this mean that the booster can also be used by customers who, for example, “only” achieve 500 Mbps via DSL?

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It’s heading in that direction. I don’t know all the details yet.

And yes, a very good connection doesn’t mean anything. The calculation of the expected speed includes a lot of parameters. This includes, for example, the number of bands available there, distance and utilization. But the resulting calculation is too high for me. We calculate rather conservatively so that we don’t specify too much that might not be achieved.

5G or 5G+,

5G wide or 5G fast,

or whatever other terms marketing comes up with for different variants of 5G, they perform very differently.

My experience with an iPhone 12 mini where I live:

- Swisscom 5G (as a piggyback from 4G, i.e. wide, or standard 5G) at a distance of 250 meters from the antenna: 100-150 Mbit/sec download

- Sunrise 5G fully expanded at a distance of 70 meters from the antenna: 750-850 Mbit/sec download

The booster certainly delivers better technical results than an iPhone due to the better antenna technology compared to a cell phone, but the crucial questions are:

- Which variant of 5G is actually available at the location?

- How big is the distance to the antenna or the reception strength of the booster?

In simple terms, Swisscom’s 5G standard, which is currently the most widely used in the area, can also be said:

As long as it is based on 4G as a “piggyback solution”, it will not bring any significant performance gains compared to 4G, and in some cases it is even slower than 4G.

Werner

@Roger G Are the values ​​in the KC actually live measurements? I noticed that the max. speed with the booster may vary depending on the load on the cell. Once more, once less. See picture from this morning and now.

The approximate max. upload would also be interesting!

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@swissbeetle wrote:

@“x”#223975Are the values ​​in the KC actually live measurements? I noticed that the max. speed with the booster may vary depending on the load on the cell. Once more, once less. See picture from this morning and now.

The approximate max. upload would also be interesting!

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Hmmm, I don’t know whether these are live values ​​from the mobile network, but they are based on the measured speed of the landline line. Mobile speed = subscription speed minus current landline speed. I wasn’t aware that it was displayed in such detail.

Upload is important to very few customers and is not displayed in this context.

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@Roger G wrote:

Upload is important to very few customers and is not displayed in this context.

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Thanks to the cloud, the upload speed is becoming more and more important and there has already been a discussion here in the forum about whether a reversal of up/down would be possible, ideally even selectable in Kundencenter.

@hed Exactly my opinion! But it sounds better in sales. By the way, I quickly switched my subscription to Internet L, and lo and behold the upload grew from 48 to 82 Mbit/s. Dear Swisscom, that’s not even the upload from Internet M, so I can expect that with the M subscription I’ll get 82Mbit/s, after all I’m paying for 100Mbit/s.

@swissbeetle

But it is defined in such a way that the speed that is reached first counts for the subscription. This is similar to a car, for example you have a 5 year guarantee or 100,000 km, whichever is achieved first counts.

hed

@swissbeetle

What kind of values ​​do you get with the installed CNLAB measurement?

Available subscription “M”.

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@pommel73 wrote:

If I uncheck “Use internet booster” when measuring the device’s speed, I get about 10% more download speed.

If I use the booster, the upload increases by up to 30% for both.

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When using the Internet-Booster, a bundling technique is used. Probably: Multipath TCP

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipath_TCP

Every bundling technology requires a little “overhead” i.e. the transport of additional data through the Internet connection. This additional data is required so that the bundling of the two Internet connections (G.Fast + mobile communications) works.

Here in the downlink (download direction) the “overhead” is greater than the speed advantage achieved by the Internet-Booster. And the speed advantage in the uplink (upload direction) is probably not really noticeable for the end customer. So the Internet-Booster is simply unnecessary here.

As a reminder:

When using a Internet-Booster, the QUIC network protocol should be completely blocked by the firewall. See:

https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Internet-Allgemein/Glasfibrillausbau/m-p/669736#M62750

The advantages, expected data transfer rates and packet latency of 5G compared to 4G/LTE were shown below:

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/iPhone-iOS/iPhone-12-5G/m-p/665102#M12332](https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/iPhone-iOS/iPhone-12- 5G/m-p/665102#M12332)

and the articles linked there have already been “chewed” enough.

@swissbeetle wrote:

@hed Exactly my opinion! But it sounds better in sales. By the way, I quickly switched my subscription to Internet L, and lo and behold the upload grew from 48 to 82 Mbit/s. Dear Swisscom, that’s not even the upload from Internet M, so I can expect that with the M subscription I’ll get 82Mbit/s, after all I’m paying for 100Mbit/s.

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But I don’t want to have that discussion here. Otherwise, you will have to move immediately to a metropolitan area, where expansion is inexpensive and quick to develop. With the booster you have the technical opportunity to get close to the subscription speed in your location. And you can only benefit from the further expansion of the 5G network and new technologies. Or maybe not?

Have a nice weekend everyone 🙂

@swissbeetle

I passed on the information to technology that it should be possible to bring the upload close to the target value for the subscription “M”, it is being looked into.

@Anonymous: I personally find it a little embarrassing!

But yes, everyone have a nice relaxing weekend.

@WalterB Thank you. LG

Thank you for the link to the checker www.swisscom.ch/checker

@swissbeetle

So that’s the information after 4 days of clarifications because of the increase in upload for subscription “M” which reached the target upload value of subscription “M” for subscription “L”.

According to technology, the speed data for the subscription is tied to the subscription and cannot be adjusted individually for download and upload.

Technical support said he didn’t have any more information.

@Roger G The difference in upload between the M and L subscriptions is strange, even though the L (82Mbit/s) subscription doesn’t even reach the 100Mbit/s you have to pay for.

I don’t think it’s exactly this difference that the M subscription is slowed down to 46Mbit/s.

And it’s not that the 100Mbit/s cannot be achieved with the L subscription. Although the cell phone speed test goes a lot over 100Mbit/s.

@WalterB Thanks for your info.

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@swissbeetle wrote:

@Roger G The difference in upload between subscriptions M and L is strange, although not even the subscription L (82Mbit/s) reaches the 100Mbit/s you have to pay for.

I don’t think it’s exactly this difference that the M subscription is slowed down to 46Mbit/s.

And it’s not that the 100Mbit/s cannot be achieved with the L subscription. Although the cell phone speed test goes a lot over 100Mbit/s.

@WalterB Thanks for your info.

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So boys, you already belong to the “league of the impatient” 😀 I’ll say it again… patience. And only sleep twice.

@Roger G

I got another phone from the technology company that has a maximum 5G booster speed of 200/30Mbit/s for the “M” subscription and is added to the existing copper line speed.

So for me copper line, 110/30 Mbit/s + 5G booster, 200/30 Mbit/s \= around 300/60 Mbit/s and that’s somewhat true.

I also mentioned that the speed information in Kundencenter is confusing.