It is precisely because of the Pappenheimers quoted below by 20min that rigorous action must be taken:
The reader is annoyed: “We’ve never heard of a limit. I’ve been using my cell phone with a second SIM card for Internet in the house for four years and now it’s suddenly no longer possible. That’s simply customer-unfriendly.”
NilsL wrote:
@Rennapreu23 What kind of subscription do you have? and for how long?
I haven’t received a text message yet
Take a look at the SME KuCe, it’s written in black and white, it’s a customer message in the KuCe.
@user109 You’re right, it’s there
None of this is currently displayed in the cockpit
To be honest, I’ve lost a lot of respect for Swisscom and I don’t think it’s right that existing subscriptions are adjusted when the contract was drawn up (as far as I can see, it’s a 2-year contract because there’s still a device included). nothing about it yet. (Sure, the contract already said a fair use policy and all that, but really hard throttling after 60 GB is something else entirely). The fact is, I regularly need well over 60 GB per month without somehow misusing my subscription and using it as a stationary Anschluss at home.
I will clarify whether it is possible to withdraw from the contract and then probably take the subscription privately at Wingo as long as there is no limit there, but it is probably just a question of time. And after that, I don’t know, I’ll look further, maybe really to FL1 or something
Otherwise for companies, I also have a few customers who have their mobile subscriptions with Salt and I have to say that it is now quite good, the price is great and the management of the subscriptions is also well solved and the support has always been excellent recently. Salt Net is also quite good, my whole family has GoMo subscriptions and I’ve never heard anything negative about the net
@foobar wrote:
I would be interested to know how much data volume is used on average for the Internet-Booster.
Certainly significantly less than you think - IPTV runs exclusively over DSL.
For me it’s an average of 150 GB per month - but I’m anything but an average user.
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Actually, the Internet-Booster has the wrong name anyway, because currently it doesn’t only “boost” as needed when the DSL line no longer has enough bandwidth, but the load is constantly distributed between the landline and mobile networks, i.e. even when there is actually doesn’t do anything 🙂
The Internet-Booster in its current form is more of a “load balancer” with a higher mobile share than would be necessary purely in terms of demand.
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So I think we should leave the church in the village. Exactly NATEL go and Enterprise Mobile are affected by these measures. Both are enterprise subscriptions for large companies, some of which pay very little per subscription. negotiated very well with Swisscom. I don’t think it’s okay that these subscriptions are sometimes misused as stationary Internet connections with high data consumption via the additional SIM. It’s good that Swisscom is finally enforcing the contractually agreed limits here.
For business we still use InOne SME Mobile Go. But Salt also gives us great looks and prizes here. Salt even helped us to optimize the Vodafone contracts for our German employees with Vodafone Business. This saves us hundreds of euros per month.
It hit me today. After several years without any problems, my connection was throttled to 512kb shortly after I started working. Normal use of the second SIM card, which I purchased specifically for the mobile 4G data router and which costs me additional money every month, is no longer possible. Working from home was no longer possible. 😞
Until now I have supported the expansion of the 5G network. But now I’m wondering why we allowed these 5G antennas on school buildings when the use of the 4G potential obviously doesn’t correspond to fair use. The Swisscom hotline employees were unable to give me a satisfactory answer to this question. That’s why I can’t understand the move and have the feeling that they want to force a “landline connection” on us again in the medium term. But as I said… then you don’t need 5G. With 5G, the 60GB is used up even faster.
Well, in the information sent to your Arbeitgeber, various at least partially plausible reasons were given as to why this was done. One thing is precisely that the 5G expansion is being massively hindered. Even if it doesn’t affect you exactly where you are, I assume you can extrapolate that if you look at it rationally.
Ask the fleet manager in your company/administration. He will have received a condensed summary with the reasons, which he could have passed on to the employees (I am a fleet manager myself, hence this assumption on my part). You can find this summary here in the forum earlier. I posted it once, see the most helpful answer.
Router operation would not be allowed according to the terms and conditions and these are probably the people responsible for this measure, which I of course don’t find intoxicating, even if I am not affected despite intensive use.
@Flaburiest14 Do you really think that Swisscom will expand fiber optics across the board (within the construction zone…) for billions by 2030 if 5G FWA would be sufficient? Mobile communications simply scale poorly in densely populated areas. Nobody wants that many small cells and antennas. In addition, these cells also require fiber optics as a backbone.
@millernet: I now share this argument, which confirms my impression that Swisscom wants to increasingly send its users back to copper or fiber optic connections.
Nevertheless, I am still of the opinion that 5G expansion is not needed to this extent. -> In my case, the 4G potential makes it possible to load the network within 4 days to be viewed as a “NON Fair User” by Swisscom. From my “Not Fair” perspective, I find Swisscom’s abrupt implementation of reducing the Anschluss directly to 512kb. In addition to the data rate for the additional SIM card in the 4G router, which is apparently not permitted for my application (which is also offered in the Swisscom shop), the data rate of the SIM card in my cell phone was also consistently reduced until the end of the month.
@Flaburiest14 if something gets out of hand, I have to take action and enforce it,
even if it is unpleasant for the customers.
The contract says: 60 gigabytes / per month
So no surprise that this is consistently implemented with announcement, period.!!!
Mobile phone transmitters do not have endless capacities, so before there is an overload, you have to take measures to prevent this from happening.
Landline connections have larger capacity reserves with constant availability (speed) than mobile phone sites (fluctuations due to radio transmission and load).
No, you’re looking at it wrong! Further and rapid 5G expansion is completely unavoidable. We all need more and more data everywhere. The hunger for data is unchecked. The data volume over the mobile network doubles approximately every 2 years! As a result, providers must continue to expand capacities and do so as quickly as possible. The smartphone has become completely normal today and people expect to be able to upload the new shoes they just bought to Instagram anywhere, be it in a lonely alpine hut or in the train tunnel.
The rest has already been said. The limit of 60GB at Enterprise has been in the terms and conditions for years. It’s nothing new, it’s just that none of this has ever been implemented, or only very rarely. Now we are taking rigorous action. 60GB with this subscription is ok, for more you pay an extra charge.
@user109 The data transfer via an additional card for a private subscription - including the offer of a second SIM for the WINGO Mobile subscription of one of my family members who already uses full speed 5G - would cost me less than 10 francs in the future costs that I have so far paid directly to Swisscom for the additional SIM card. Can you tell me briefly whether I’m making a mistake in my thinking?
The measures implemented by Swisscom will not solve the problem. The data transfer is simply shifted to other subscriptions that also enable a second SIM card. For what purpose do you sell 4/5G data routers in the Swisscom Shop if they are prohibited in the usage contracts?
@Flaburiest14 wrote:
For what purpose do you sell 4/5G data routers in the Swisscom Shop if they are prohibited in the usage contracts?
@Flaburiest14 The problem is already shifting, but if it becomes excessive there, I suspect that Swisscom will take measures there too.
If SC has too much data traffic on the cell phone towers, it must identify the culprits and take measures to get the excess data under control.
I think the ban on routers and multi-SIM is intended to permanently replace a landline connection and to use it excessively like a landline connection including TV and streaming.
The SC mobile network is not yet that developed.
With a booster and IB, only normal internet traffic goes through it.
Fairuse Policy would be easy if the customer got what was promised and what they bought! So if it says unlimited, that’s exactly what you should get. Otherwise it’s easy to deceive the customer. In addition, business mobile data is also used for video streaming devices (cameras, etc.), which simply require more than 60GB. You don’t want to have to manually buy overpriced packages for a long time, you want to be able to do it. That’s exactly why you make different subscriptions!!! In addition, the measure should be called blocking rather than throttling - 0.5 Mbit/s is unworthy. You can no longer view a website; you can walk to the hoster and look at the site on site more quickly than having it loaded on your mobile phone.
Clearly a step in the wrong direction, a step backwards. What about the doubling of data every 2 years…. According to Swisscom, the data is probably halved every 2 years.
@Prieschemop56 have fun at Sunrise.
Little warning to you, don’t get excited too soon!!!
I had a Sunrise Enterprise mobile subscription: the reception is underground in buildings and sometimes outdoors, Swisscom for that. Good, no problems…
It was always easy to compare locally as my private cell phone runs via Swisscom.
