“Putting fiber optics in Weiler is not profitable. Swisscom is building for Sternenberg for free. How is that possible?”
https://martincandinas.ch/buendner-nationalrat-half-bauma-beim-ausbau/
Whether the National Council can also help out in other areas?
Sternenberg is similar to my external location. Hamlet. A “fiberglass desert” in the truest sense of the word. We also have some politicians in my village of 900 souls, unfortunately all of them already at retirement age as “old national councilors” and second negative viewpoint working in the SVP 🙈. Well… then we’ll probably wait until 2030 or even later . My hope for before 2030 is intact and dies last 😆
You just have to make sure that some official measuring or monitoring devices are installed in the associated protected area, which can only be connected via fiber optics.
Alternatively, simply approve a building application for a data center, which would of course also help a lot 🙂
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I don’t understand one thing: a month ago the local EW (canton of SZ) gave me a fiber optic cable (FTTH) at my expense. Now I can get internet via fiber optic from the local EW (uninteresting in terms of price), but not from Swisscom or other providers. My Anschluss does not appear in the Swisscom fiber optic query either. Is there any way to “unlock” other providers or do I actually have to wait years?
Hello @RogerF
You will definitely have to wait for Swisscom. As a rule, Swisscom does not rent third-party networks.
Excerpt from a newspaper article in the Luzerner Zeitung:
It may be that other providers will also decline depending on the local retailer’s price expectations.
This is also the case in Baden and the surrounding area where “Baden4net” has installed fiber optics in all apartments for free, and Swisscom is not involved there either.
Some landlords also refuse to allow Swisscom to install fiber optics in the apartments on the grounds that there is already fiber optics in the apartment and they should use this provider.
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@Nicolas_Bachmann wrote:
It’s kind of stupid.
Energie Seeland installed fiber optics for us 5-6 years ago, namely 4 separate lines. Quickline bought/rented one line, the other 3 are available for rent to all providers.Does Swisscom really want to add a 5th line?
Yes, unfortunately that is the case. In principle, Swisscom does not rent property. Either they build in cooperation, if that doesn’t come about - then alone - even in areas where other networks already exist…
I also have 2 OTO’s in the apartment 🤷
….keep on rockin'
@Werner wrote:
You just have to make sure that some official measuring or monitoring devices are installed in the associated protected area, which can only be connected via fiber optics.
Alternatively, simply approve a building application for a data center, which would of course also help a lot 🙂
@Werner Imagine that in our village there is not a single fiber optic cable laid underground, except for the one for the backhaul salt and some FTTN (UPC) and a few for company locations and these run along the main street Pfäffikerstrasse Wetzikon, otherwise “nada” 🙈 We don’t even deserve FTTS…. I’m far too unimportant if I would build a data center in my location 😜
Yes, we are slowly running out of patience here. My fiber has been lying unused in the ground for 1.5 years now. Swisscom has nothing smarter in mind and is appealing against the ComCo ruling, so that even more time is wasted.
We here “in the country” finally got a fiber even 5..6 years after the city or aglo communities. From a business perspective, I understand that the large metropolitan areas will be developed first. However, the fact that mountain areas or remote hamlets do not have to be given priority by the National Council is unlikely.
My frustration on this topic grows with each passing month. If Freddy offers it in our town, I’ll probably switch to him. Not because I had to wait because of him (necessarily), but because the internet monopolist (unnecessarily) chose the path through the authorities.
But that’s exactly what it’s all about, Swisscom wants to think carefully about the ‘roundabout’ 3-4 km feeder cable for the investment and is planning backwards for it (big risk/effort? Not in proportion to the desired return?). But we as customers can’t do anything about it if the head office (“POP”) is so far away. It is unfortunate that if the company had behaved in a competitive manner and with a long-term mindset before the WEKO investigation, fiber optic lines for the “backbone” to the external locations would have been installed earlier. Glass to the DSLAM has been pulled up to the location anyway….and there are also exciting anecdotes where the network construction team is informed that streets in the village are being torn up, and in this respect the network construction department says "No, we have to “Don’t lay empty pipes for fiber optics”, that is beyond my comprehension. Because later, I speak from experience, the streets would have to be opened up again, after which the municipal building authority refused to give Swisscom the necessary permit. Dumb. Nevertheless, it is better to look forward with the hope that Swisscom learns from its mistakes 😜😉
@RogerF wrote:
I don’t understand one thing: a month ago the local EW (canton of SZ) gave me a fiber optic cable (FTTH) at my expense. Now I can get internet via fiber optic from the local EW (uninteresting in terms of price), but not from Swisscom or other providers. My Anschluss does not appear in the Swisscom fiber optic query either. Is there any way to “unlock” other providers or do I actually have to wait years?
With EWS you would also have the choice of Init7 and other providers, but not Swisscom (which is bearable). Just use Jungle Compass to check what’s available at your location: https://www.dschungelkompass.ch/festnetz/checker.xhtml
@5018: I know you don’t like my posts. But to condescendingly imply that I don’t need my brain, I don’t need it here. I think that all of us in this forum can do without posts of this kind. The forum rule #6 " I don’t feel that “respectful treatment” is fulfilled in this case. Thank you for refraining from your little, one-sided private war here in the future.
Hello @robbieB
I know several houses where the fiber optic cable is up to 8km long. And that works perfectly.
But then the customer’s plug must not be dirty at all, otherwise you will have too much attenuation and then no signal…
And you can’t change the whole of Switzerland from one day to the next.
And pulling in and splicing a fiber optic takes time, otherwise you’ll just end up in trouble afterwards…
greetings Lorenz
@andiroid wrote:
Yes, we are slowly running out of patience here. My fiber has been lying unused in the ground for 1.5 years now. Swisscom has nothing smarter in mind and is appealing against the ComCo ruling, so that even more time is wasted. (…)
(…)but because the network monopolist has (unnecessarily) chosen the path through the authorities.
Just to clarify: it will be rebuilt parallel to the ongoing process one way or another.
The only problem is that there are very, very many connections that have to be checked and converted piece by piece. Analysis, planning, drawing, civil engineering, permits, pulling out and tightening cables and splicing… But hey - things are moving forward 💪
Greetings Stefan
Ich bin ein als Privatkunde getarnter Swisscom-Mitarbeiter im Bereich Service Continuity.
@StefanSch Yes, unfortunately not everyone understands that the expansion continues in parallel and is sometimes very complex and expensive. The courts have also recognized that P2P expansion is more expensive and time-consuming, but the disadvantage for other market participants is greater. You have to accept it like that, but you don’t have to find it right.
