FTTH on demand or wait for fiber optic expansion

    • I am the owner and currently have a copper line that runs into the house and offers a maximum speed of 85/38 MBit/s.

    When Swisscom will expand to fiber optics on its own is anyone’s guess, or you can register on the website and be informed by email when something is built, but as we all know, many can still do this Take years, especially if you are not in the center. Apparently, however, in new buildings/replacement buildings these days only fiber optic cables are run into the house. But I don’t actually want to tear down the house and build a new one just to get a fiber optic connection within Frist.

    I really have the feeling that it could take longer here because we are a bit out of the way, a group of houses with only 3 houses.

    Now I have found the “Connectnow” section on the Swisscom website ([https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/netz/connection/connectnow.html).](https://www.swisscom.ch /de/about/network/connection/connectnow.html)

    I entered my address there and it then showed me how much the thing would cost: Building development (cost share): CHF 5,837.40

    Building cabling for all usage units (including fiber optic sockets): CHF 540.-

    Total: CHF 6,377.90

    (although you can also do the building cabling yourself / by an electrician).

    But it actually comes at a price.

    If I could persuade the owners of neighboring properties to connect their property to the fiber optic network (which could certainly be difficult for one of them since the owner does not live in the property), would the costs be split? So everyone still has 1,945.80 + everyone still has to pay the costs for the cabling in the house (so a total of CHF 2,485.80 per party)? Then of course things would look a little different. But with one of them I’m sure it will be difficult or even impossible, but with the other neighbor I can imagine him taking part since he lives in the house himself.

    This raises the question for me as to whether I would rather wait for the time when the property is connected to the fiber optic network. This would then mean that I would only have to pay for the cabling in the building myself (i.e. around 540.00) and Swisscom would then take care of the rest, right?

    I really have to think about whether I really want to pay almost 6,000 francs for a building development.

    On the other hand, such a development would probably increase the market value of my property and, in the event of a sale, this might have a positive influence on the sales price if the property has a Swisscom fiber optic connection.

    If only you could get information from Swisscom as to when the regular connection should take place?

    Within the next 5 years? in 6-8 years? In 10 years? That would make the decision much easier.

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    • Hello @MagicMax

      It always depends on how the properties are connected to each other.

      Do you have a shared underground car park and does it have a central technical room?

      A BEP could be placed and a larger supply cable could be pulled onto it.

      But if every MFH needs its own BEP, things look different again.

      Only Swisscom’s construction service can give you precise information about the costs.

      And yes, the building will have added value if you can say that the house is connected with fiber optics right into the apartment.

      Greetings Lorenz

      Hello @MagicMax

      It always depends on how the properties are connected to each other.

      Do you have a shared underground car park and does it have a central technical room?

      A BEP could be placed and a larger supply cable could be pulled onto it.

      But if every MFH needs its own BEP, things look different again.

      Only Swisscom’s construction service can give you precise information about the costs.

      And yes, the building will have added value if you can say that the house is connected with fiber optics right into the apartment.

      Greetings Lorenz

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      @MagicMax What bothers you about 85/35? I have 100/35 and have never felt limited by it in any way. For “normal” surfing on the WEB you need 10-15 MBit/s. UHD videos on YouTube 8-10 MBit/s. Whether a download takes 1 or 3 minutes doesn’t really matter.

      Conclusion: I would never invest 6000 CHF in something that doesn’t bring you any real added value other than in your head.

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      The houses are not connected to each other, there is no shared parking garage.

      Today the properties are developed above ground (overhead lines).

      @5018
      In principle I agree with you, the connection is actually smooth enough, TV etc. has also worked perfectly so far.

      It’s just that the supply line into the house comes via an overhead line and from the last pole into the house via two twisted wires, which I find a bit amateurish for today’s times.

      According to the planning tool, Swisscom has an empty pipe that has a branch from the street that leads to the edge of our group of houses.

      It certainly doesn’t make sense to dismantle the overhead line one day and re-lay copper to the buildings via the empty pipe.

      Maybe I just have to be patient, I think that one day fiber optics will come here and then living underground, unless you use the existing masts (like in France with France Telecom/Orange) and connect the houses with fiber optics this way.

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      I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much.

      For me, Swisscom built a fiber optic overhead line even though there was space in the pipe in the ground.

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      Had a telephone conversation with Swisscom today.

      I already have Fiber to the Street, but due to the Weko story (many thanks Fredy K. 🤬) the expansion into the houses is about 2 years behind, because as we all know, everything has been stopped, except for new buildings.

      Everything around here is still old school, i.e. copper.

      In any case, nothing is planned here for 2025, and it is not yet possible to say for 2026 and beyond. So I expect it to happen around 2027 to 2028.

      So I’ll probably leave it with today’s copper connection; FTTH on demand is really too expensive for me.

      In other countries, for example in Spain, the customer simply orders a subscription and the provider usually connects the property free of charge, here something like this costs around 6,000.

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      I would be careful with this FTTH on demand anyway. We had already thought about it because, according to Swisscom, nothing will happen until 2030. It’s great that the street was open twice and I live right on the street. Strangely enough, neighboring communities have already installed FTTH, here only FTTS.

      There is a section in the FTTH on Demond contract that says the following: If existing cable pipes cannot be used from the property line to the building connection, Swisscom will obtain an offer and invoice you for this. I once asked and unfortunately no one could tell me exactly what additional costs this would cause and approximately how much, only: the existing pipes are usually sufficient.

      If Swisscom does this as part of its planning, it doesn’t cost you anything. I’m having a bit of a problem bearing the costs for pipes, which I then give to Swisscom free of charge. Actually, according to statements, these FTTH on Demand “costs” should only be because of the additional effort that arises from planning ahead of time.

      I can understand that I should bear the costs for the pipes within the house.

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      5 months later

      MagicMax

      Hello MagicMax - what is the status today Feb. 2025 - I also have a connection contract with axians/swisscom - get no information - am now surprised that I read the following on the community page ?

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            Hello Wejoyauss13

            Why are you surprised? This concerns those connections that do not reach the specified bandwidth and would like to take out one of the subscriptions specified there.
            As these are not very attractive, there will probably not be too many actual contracts.

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