@NilsL

Personally, I don’t give a damn how the 4% of Swisscom customers generate 85% of the data volume in the mobile network.

(Thanks to sensible use of mobile technology) I am one of the 96% of Swisscom customers who account for 15% of the data volume in the mobile network.

I’m just pointing out what awaits these high-volume customers in the near future: either open a big wallet and pay a (sauteur) surcharge for additional data packages or learn to live with the data transfer rate throttling…

You experience the same thing at the airport today when there is a traffic jam in front of check-in: If you don’t want to wait in the long check-in queue, you pay a higher surcharge for either Business Class or First Class. Or stay at home…

It’s probably time to classify the flat rates a bit - applies to all providers…

It can’t be that average users pay the same amount for their flat rate subscription as power users who use 10-50 times the amount of data…..

I’m actually surprised that measures weren’t taken sooner…

Maybe even lower the tariffs a little for the average user 😉

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@GrandDixence wrote:

@NilsL

You experience the same thing at the airport today when there is a traffic jam in front of check-in: If you don’t want to wait in the long check-in queue, you pay a higher surcharge for either business class or first class. Or stay at home…

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Well, the comparison is flawed. Even as an economy passenger, I have never had to wait in line at check-in. The magic word is, do it yourself. Print web check-in and baggage label yourself and go to the automatic check-in counter. Complete. Business or even first class customers not only pay a lot more, they also expect completely different goodies and are generally much more demanding when it comes to service.

Then use security as a comparison.

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@WalterB wrote:

It may be that in a few years more power will be available for the mobile network

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One cannot expect that any public mobile network in Switzerland (Swisscom, Sunrise or Salt) will have more data transmission capacity in the near future:

a) Larger bandwidth = more data transmission capacity: In the near future, OFCOM will not allocate any new, useful mobile phone frequencies in the 600 MHz to 2000 MHz range to the three public Swiss mobile phone providers. I expect the opposite: as military budgets increase in Europe, one or two military satellite communication networks à la MUOS will be implemented. For better or worse, public mobile communications have to give up bandwidth for military applications. Starlink proved in the Ukraine war that well-functioning satellite communication can provide the military with a significant advantage in war.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilfunkfrequencies_in_der_Switzerland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_User_Objective_System

b) Higher spectral efficiency = more data transmission capacity: 5G uses the same radio technology as 4G/LTE (OFDM + SC-FDMA). So 5G does not bring any higher spectral efficiency. To date, I have not read a word about a new wireless technology with higher spectral efficiency for 6G. And if any marketing paper for 5G or 6G promises higher spectral efficiency, this technological advantage can only be achieved under laboratory conditions. Certainly not if there is no line of sight between the cell phone antenna and the cell phone. This is exactly the radio reception situation that prevails in everyday life for the majority of mobile phone customers.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spektrale_Effizienz

c) More mobile phone antennas = more data transmission capacity through better mobile phone reception conditions: At some point, densifying the mobile phone antenna forest no longer brings significant added value. Line of sight between mobile phone antennas only leads to mutual interference.

Does 5G SA, which is in the starting blocks, bring nothing?

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@roman70 wrote:

Does 5G SA, which is in the starting blocks, bring nothing?

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5G SA does not bring any significant improvement for private customers. See:

https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/5G-Standalone/m-p/798654#M13647

https://www.5g-provider.info/technik/5g-standalone.html

“5G” is the wrong name anyway. “4.5G” would be the correct and appropriate name for this technological leap.

2.5G => 2nd generation mobile communications (GSM) with the “data turbos” GPRS and EDGE

3.5G => 3rd generation mobile communications (UMTS) with the “data turbos” HSDPA/HSUPA -> HSPA(+)

Not in terms of capacity for the operator either?

With the introduction of 5G SA, the data transmission capacity of the mobile network will experience a severe loss. Today, thanks to 5G NSA, all 4G and 5G mobile frequency bands are bundled by 5G-capable mobile phones via “carrier aggregation”. Tomorrow, thanks to 5G SA, only the 5G mobile frequency bands will be bundled by the 5G-capable mobile phone. Significantly less bandwidth is available with 5G SA than with 5G NSA. See:

https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/5G-Standalone/m-p/803846#M13949

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilfunkfrequencies_in_der_Switzerland

I just received a notification via SMS that once my data limit of 60GB is reached for this month, my browsing speed will be reduced until the end of the month. It looks as if Swisscom is now actively implementing the fair use policy.

I have the NATEL go Swiss standard, around since 2018. But Cockpit shows me that I have already used 50 GB, I have no idea how that could have happened.

Here: [https://www.20min.ch/story/weniger-tempo-swisscom-greift-beim-surfen-am-handy-haerter-durch-103097443](https://www.20min.ch/story/ less-speed-swisscom-grabs-the-mobile-phone-harder-while-surfing-103097443)

However, private customers do not seem to be affected (yet).

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NilsL wrote:

@Rennapreu23 What kind of subscription do you have? and for how long?

I haven’t received a text message yet

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@NilsL

Take a look at the SME KuCe, it’s written in black and white, it’s a customer message in the KuCe.

@user109 You’re right, it’s there

None of this is currently displayed in the cockpit

To be honest, I’ve lost a lot of respect for Swisscom and I don’t think it’s right that existing subscriptions are adjusted when the contract was drawn up (as far as I can see, it’s a 2-year contract because there’s still a device included). nothing about it yet. (Sure, the contract already said a fair use policy and all that, but really hard throttling after 60 GB is something else entirely). The fact is, I regularly need well over 60 GB per month without somehow misusing my subscription and using it as a stationary Anschluss at home.

I will clarify whether it is possible to withdraw from the contract and then probably take the subscription privately at Wingo as long as there is no limit there, but it is probably just a question of time. And after that, I don’t know, I’ll look further, maybe really to FL1 or something

Otherwise for companies, I also have a few customers who have their mobile subscriptions with Salt and I have to say that it is now quite good, the price is great and the management of the subscriptions is also well solved and the support has always been excellent recently. Salt Net is also quite good, my whole family has GoMo subscriptions and I’ve never heard anything negative about the net

I would be interested to know how much data volume is used on average for the Internet-Booster.

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@foobar wrote:

I would be interested to know how much data volume is used on average for the Internet-Booster.

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Certainly significantly less than you think - IPTV runs exclusively over DSL.

For me it’s an average of 150 GB per month - but I’m anything but an average user.

LG

r00t

Actually, the Internet-Booster has the wrong name anyway, because currently it doesn’t only “boost” as needed when the DSL line no longer has enough bandwidth, but the load is constantly distributed between the landline and mobile networks, i.e. even when there is actually doesn’t do anything 🙂

The Internet-Booster in its current form is more of a “load balancer” with a higher mobile share than would be necessary purely in terms of demand.