Home network with Swisscom TV but without IB

Hello everyone,

For various reasons I would like to expand my home network a bit. The TP Link (Omada) or Unifi solutions caught my eye. (This thread is less about what the right choice would be 😉 )

However, I stumbled upon the problem that not all modems seem to support IPTV technology…

Hence my question: Do you have any tips on which solutions (preferably either from TP or Unifi) work for you and continue to support Swisscom TV (without having to tinker with very custom solutions).

Thanks for your ideas.

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The devices must support IGMP snooping. Otherwise you will have a problem with live TV, as the TV boxes work via multicast.

Otherwise, and I don’t want to discuss this, you’re not expanding your network with the devices versus an IB3/4, you’re simply paying a lot of money for nothing. But everyone as he wants 😉

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@Freihiettaff76

This is already your second request, based on your unfeasible original idea, to cascade two Swisscom Internet boxes one behind the other in order to create delimited and separated networks.

To be completely honest now:

As long as you don’t even understand the difference between a modem and a router, you are still miles away from starting projects on the boundaries of network architectures and their separate administration and support.

Before you spend a lot of money on unsuitable devices, it is advisable to first take a look at the small and medium-sized 1×1 of the architecture of IP networks and the devices that can technically be used for them.

There is a lot of learning material (technical articles, learning materials, learning videos) on the Internet for the topics of router cascades and hierarchies of networks and the different addressing systems of IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.

You should start with that first.

It might sound a little harsh now, but at the moment you’re just trying to get into at least 2 leagues too high for yourself without the necessary prior knowledge and it won’t work that way.

Addendum: Here is a link to an introductory article on the topic of router cascades. Although it is relatively old, it is still valid for the “small 1×1” and written in a way that is easy to understand:

https://www.heise.de/ratgeber/Router-Kaskaden-1825801.html

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Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom

Wener - What an answer - I really didn’t miss this sound!

To be completely honest now: As long as you don’t really know who I am, know my knowledge in this area, but just let me go… but let’s leave that alone.

Instead, how about you focus your energy on answering the question. If you’re not interested, I wish you a nice day and hope that someone else can give me a tip.

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@Freihiettaff76 wrote:

[…] Hence my question: Do you have a tip which solutions (preferably either from TP or Unifi) work for you and continue to support Swisscom TV (without having to tinker with very custom solutions).

An Apple TV with the Blue TV app on it works and works best with most third-party solutions.

What also works: take a managed switch, put the LAN of the Internet box on its own VLAN and assign the TV boxes untagged to this VLAN. Or run an IGMP proxy on the router and enable ICMP snooping on the protected network. Your additional requirement “without having to create very custom solutions” is actually diametrically opposed to all of this. Why do you want to do this to yourself? Costs a lot, massively increases the potential for malfunctions, requires a good deal of experience with network technology - why? As a personal testing and learning laboratory? Even if @Werner expressed it quite sharply - he’s a bit right…

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Have you tried turning it off and on again?

@Freihiettaff76

With the latest versions of Ubiquiti hard and software (some still EA), IGMP works without any problems.

I also have a setup without IB in the installation. Zyxel 7501 in bridge mode and connected directly to the WAN port. The UDM SE does the rest

see

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Heimvernetzung-WLAN/UDMpro-mit-neuer-Firmware-3-0-19-in-Connection-mit-blue-tv/td-p/758077] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Heimvernetzung-WLAN/UDMpro-mit-neuer-Firmware-3-0-19-in-Connection-mit-blue-tv/td-p/758077)

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@bosi

You’re using “my” thread as a reference. Does that mean your blue TV is now running completely without any dropouts? That would be positive!

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@kaetho

Yep, works perfectly.

It is essential to create your own VLAN for the TV box, as IGMP scatters an extremely large amount of data. Also makes it easier for configuration.

But I switched to the Apple TV because I consume very little linear programming and the quality is massively better with all other applications (Netflix etc.)

Blue TV still has a lot to catch up on, including in terms of operation, but since the last version I can live with it very well.

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@bosi wrote:

@kaetho

Yep, works perfectly…

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Be sure to create your own VLAN for the TV box, as IGMP scatters an extremely large amount of data. Do it for the…

I already have it. But I don’t see the advantage over my current setup. Only the “2nd red line” from the IB3 to the UDMpro would be eliminated. And the TV boxes would receive the IP from the UDMpro instead of from the IB3.

The port tagging for the different VLANs would remain. “Just change the TV-Box” would still not work. You would probably have to intercept something like that with Radius.

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