Joy reigns or delusion, or eye problems, or fake?

  • At my address in Wädenswil, it has recently been reported that fibre optic operation will finally be possible in the 4th week of April 25 (after the part has already been in the ground for over 2 years).

    Perhaps a fake?

    Greetings Gundi

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    • Hello @gundi

      Probably not, because Swisscom had to add a drop to the blocked connections.

      If the Swisscom Checker. indicates this for your address, then it will also be expanded there.

      Greetings Lorenz

      GuidoL

      That sounds great. Hope dies last!!!

      Question (assuming I get 10GB): After the new Internet box for fibre optics, what happens to the distribution of data?

      LAN: which CAT do I need? (LAN goes to a router 1=T1500G-8T then on to the TV and WLAN box), replace T1500G-8T with 10GB router?

      LAN: goes to the PC via another T1500G-8T, then to the PC with 10GB network card, or to two NASes (a 10GB card could be installed here in each case. Is it worth it?

      Greetings and thanks for the answers

      gundi

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        gundi

        I wouldn’t replace the T1500G-8T switch because the 1Gbit/s will certainly be more than enough for your devices and applications.

        You certainly don’t have a PC with 10Gbit or NAS etc.. even the TV box only has 100Mbit.

        If there would be a change in the future, you still have enough time to make adjustments, the important thing is that the upload is higher because you can always use that.

        ***I would use the ABo “M” and if you really need more speed later you can switch to the ABo “L”.

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        gundi
        The questions need to be clarified first:
        Where and for what do you want to use 10Gb?
        WAN > LAN?
        LAN > WAN?
        LAN <> LAN?
        What 10 Gb devices are available?

        The question of which CAT cable is irrelevant for now….

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          POGO 1104

          10GB devices: PC / SYNOLOGY NAS (after updating the network card) / 2x Thinkpad X1 with Ethernet interface. Between the 10GB devices it has the T1500G-8T (which would then also have to be changed, because otherwise the 10GB would be useless). Which product?

          Everything else 1GB, assume the whole WLAN doesn’t need 10GB (or it’s useless)

          Many thanks for your advice.

          Greetings gundi

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            gundi
            Thanks - it seems you only “need” 10GB speed within your home network - yes then you would need to swap switches and network cables.

            Whether you want the internet subscription on M (1 Gbit) or L (10 Gbit) - is actually independent of what’s going on in your local network.

            If you are flirting with the Internet L (10G) subscription, please be aware that you won’t find any servers out there on the WWW that can provide you with significantly more than 1 Gbit/s. (Except for speed test servers, but you have no use there…..) - But Swisscom naturally enjoys every customer who pays for an Internet L subscription 😉

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              gundi

              You may be able to max out the 10 GB with an Ethernet cable between the NAS and computer, but you do NOT need a 10 GB Internet subscription. You can hardly upload and download much more than 1 GB on the Internet. This is only needed if many people want to use the Internet on your connection at the same time.
              A current WLAN cannot transport this speed at all.

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              gundi

              Just remember the normal NAS does not bring much more performance even with 10Gbit/s because the NAS itself is a brake, you can see that even now where you have 1Gbit/s.

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              gundi

              Postscript:

              I use 2 external “clouds”, one smugmug.com, one vimeo.com to publish my photo galleries and videos.

              I would now like to move this cloud to my internal NAS, assuming that the speed of access via fibre optics will then match the speed of the external cloud. I tried this x years ago, but it was jerky=useless. In addition, some of the NAS discs would be replaced by SSDs. Hence the 10 GB.

              Or am I seeing this wrong in the context of fibre optics?

              Greetings

              gundi

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                gundi

                The fibre normally has nothing to do with the internal network and your NAS, in any case a NAS will always be faster than an external cloud.

                Important it is not recommended to use SSD for NAS because much deleting of data from SSD shorten the lifetime, in NAS I use hard disc and in normal environment where I use fast access SSD, of course over time some things have changed in the lifetime of SSD.

                But you can say that SSDs are ahead of HDs in terms of speed and I have never had a failure with an external Samsung SSD.

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                gundi I would now like to have moved this cloud to my internal NAS, assuming that the speed of access via fibre optics then corresponds to the speed of the external cloud. Tried this x years ago, only jerky=useless. In addition, some of the NAS discs would be replaced by SSDs. Hence the 10 GB.

                Or am I seeing this wrong in the context of fibre optics?

                As I said, one is your internal network - the other is the connection from/to the www.
                If you want to move/copy the data from the external clouds to your local NAS anyway and then the “data pushing” only takes place in your local network, then only the speed in your local network counts.
                The speed to/from the WWW is only relevant if you are moving data there or fetching data from there. Then, of course, your external Internet speed does play a role. But the question is how much constant speed Vimea or Smugsmug &co can provide you with. Presumably/experience shows a maximum of 1 Gbit/s - more likely significantly less…..
                You can try out the 10G subscription and see how fast the data from Vimeo/Smugsmug arrives to you….
                You can switch between the Internet S/M/L subscriptions yourself in your MySwisscom, this will take effect immediately and will be billed exactly to the day

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                  gundi

                  In practice, 10 Gig-LAN only brings advantages for large copy or file transfer actions that you absolutely want to complete as quickly as possible and not in the background 🙂

                  And of course it only works if the entire chain is 10 Gig-capable throughout, i.e. SSD, 10 Gig LAN adapter, 10 Gig switches, high-performance clients etc. on both sides of the process.

                  I’ve often thought about upgrading my internal LAN to 10 Gig myself, but due to a lack of real personal practical benefits, I’ll wait until the price/performance ratio has improved considerably, which could probably take another 2-3 years, and for the time being I’m limiting myself to making sure that devices that I want to buy new anyway also have 10 Gig capability.

                  However, as already mentioned, 10 Gig on the WAN is really only useful for occasional show-case speed tests due to a lack of sufficiently fast remote stations, and for this purpose you can always upgrade to the L for a short time and then downgrade to the more sensible M again immediately after the speed test 😀

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                  gundi

                  How big are the videos (MB) and what file format do they have e.g. (mov) ?

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                  gundi Uh… if you want to allow some form of public access, my urgent advice would be: don’t do it. In terms of security, availability and performance, I don’t think that even the most enthusiastic technology enthusiast on a private customer internet connection will be able to manage this any better than any even halfway professional cloud service.

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                  Have you tried turning it off and on again?

                    gundi

                    gundi Tried this with my current connection (60Down, 20Up) and especially the films only jerked. Not usable.

                    Then you can try it with fibre optics first with 100/100 and then gradually increase if necessary…

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                    At this point, however, I urgently refer you to the advice from my colleague PowerMac one post above…..

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                    PowerMac

                    Maybe Swisscom wants to sell the bottom in such a case. 😄

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                    For 10G Ethernet you need Cat 6a, for Gigabit Ethernet Cat 5e. For short cable runs you might be able to get 10 Gbit over Cat 5e.