You can certainly use your own devices directly on Access, but this will only make the connection configuration and the support question (if you actually need support) unnecessarily complicated.
If you are a Fritten lover and would like to operate your own network with all the “Fritten possibilities” of functions, I would recommend that you do not replace the original Swisscom router, but simply use the modem-less Fritzbox behind the original Swisscom router 4060 via LAN-WAN cable.
By the way, the 4060 also has the best WiFi of all the fries currently available 🙂
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You can use your own routers as long as they are on the Swisscom list and you know how to set them up yourself
List:
[https://www.swisscom.ch/dam/swisscom/en/ws/documents/E\_BBCS-Documents/e\_bbcs\_supporting-documentprovedequipment.pdf](https://www.swisscom.ch/dam/ swisscom/en/ws/documents/E_BBCS-Documents/e_bbcs_supporting-documentprovedequipment.pdf)
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Thank you for the quick reply.
I will have to do the configuration willy-nilly, as the OTO socket is not in the apartment itself but in an electrical cabinet and the WLAN strength quickly decreases after a few meters.
I also need the option to connect two Fritzbox routers via VPN, so I need a real router 🙂
That would be one more argument to put the original Swisscom router in the control cabinet and then forward it from there via LAN cable to the WAN interface of a 4060 or another normal broadband router in the living area.
Even though I am aware that “replacing a modem” is sometimes almost a compulsive behavior, there is actually no real argument against the much simpler cascading of your own equipment behind a provider’s own CPE.
DynDNS and VPN connections, etc. still work perfectly.
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- Solutionselected by JanineZ
@Reiplieflior30 or you install the FB where you want it with a fiber extension see here:
These are the right components for a fiber optic extension:
Fiber optic connection cable Fiber Clik-LC Extension Kit (available up to 125m)
[https://www.brack.ch/swisscom-lwl-leitungskabel-fibre-clik-lc-extension-kit-15m-790064](https://www.brack.ch/swisscom-lwl-leitungskabel-fibre- clik-lc-extension-kit-15m-790064)
Fiber optic coupling adapter Clik-LC
https://www.brack.ch/swisscom-lwl-kupplung-adapter-clik-lc-790063
Data socket 2x RJ45 / 1x FO (flush-mounted socket, empty housing) Endizio
https://www.brack.ch/swisscom-datendose-2x-rj45-1x-fo-790058
or
Data socket 2x RJ45 / 1x FO (flush-mounted socket, empty housing) Feller Standard
https://www.brack.ch/swisscom-multimediadose-2x-rj45-1x-fo-790060
or
Data socket 2x RJ45 / 1x FO (surface-mounted socket, empty housing) Endizio
https://www.brack.ch/swisscom-netzwerkdose-2x-rj45-1x-fo-790059
Zidatech system:
[https://www.zidatech.ch/zidatech-produkt/fiber-extension-lwl-set-2?variant=800.303.720&category=1772](https://www.zidatech.ch/zidatech-produkt/fiber- extension-lwl-set-2?variant=800.303.720&category=1772)…
+ Corresponding Zidatechdose. See data sheet.
Data sheet:
[https://www.zidatech.ch/files/downloads/800.303.094\_Datenblatt-Fiber-Extension-ZT-V5.pdf](https://www.zidatech.ch/files/downloads/800.303.094_Datenblatt- Fiber Extension-ZT-V5.pdf)
This requires a splicing device:
Source:
[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Router-Hardware/Glas Fiber Connection-mit-medienconverter-umwandeln/m-p/737556#M42192] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Router-Hardware/Glas Fiber Connection-mit-medienconverter-umwandeln/m-p/737556#M42192)
5 months later
A separate router makes sense for experienced users, for example if fixed internal IPs have to be assigned, etc.
I have new Swisscom Internet and have never had so many problems. From lags to constant short connection interruptions.
The Internet box 3 is probably damaged. Either replace it or even better use my Netgear XR500.
Can you find the login details somewhere or do you have to ask for them?
@Nicolas_Bachmann wrote:
……or even better use my Netgear XR500.
Can you find the login details somewhere or do you have to ask for them?
The Netgaer XR500 cannot be operated directly on the Swisscom network because there is neither a DSL port nor a fiber port.
On this list the tested and working CPE’s: (there is nothing from Netgear on it)
[https://www.swisscom.ch/dam/swisscom/en/ws/documents/E\_BBCS-Documents/e\_bbcs\_supporting-documentprovedequipment.pdf](https://www.swisscom.ch/dam/ swisscom/en/ws/documents/E_BBCS-Documents/e_bbcs_supporting-documentprovedequipment.pdf)
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The website only says that the router must have option 60 for DHCP, which it has.
In the router menu I have the option for
• The configuration information from the ISP for your DSL account
• Username and password from ISP to log in
I realize that this is not official, it is not on the QVL. But this list only includes routers that are out of the question.
Unfortunately, the Internetbox 3 does not offer a bridged port.
You go to http://192.168.1.1, do NOT log in and click on the green tick next to “Internet”.
The diagnostic values are on in the pop-up window
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@Nicolas_Bachmann wrote:
In the router menu I have the option for
• The configuration data from the ISP for your DSL account
• Username and password from ISP to log in
This only applies if you still have a DSL bridge in between.
You can use the “DMZ mode” of the Internet box and connect your Netgear part there.
Has already been discussed here:
[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Archiv-Internet/Vernutz-von-Gaming-Router-Netgear-XR500-Nighthawk-Pro-Gaming/td-p/612762] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Archiv-Internet/Vernutz-von-Gaming-Router-Netgear-XR500-Nighthawk-Pro-Gaming/td-p/612762)
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Internet connection status
Internet connectionConnectedConnection typeg.fast
Synchronization speed
Upstream151135 kbit/s
Downstream652972 kbit/sSignal-to-noise ratioUpstream6.3 dBDownstream6.1 dBLest synchronization0 days 0 hours 19 MinDSLAM chipset type (network equipment)BroadcomVectoringActivatedFEC since last synchronizationUpstream55542Downstream63CRC since last SynchronizationUpstream0Downstream0Serial number5.1P2349B0311575Firmware version14.20.32
@POGO 1104 wrote:
You can use the “DMZ mode” of the Internet box and connect your Netgear part there.
Has already been discussed here:
[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Archiv-Internet/Vernutz-von-Gaming-Router-Netgear-XR500-Nighthawk-Pro-Gaming/td-p/612762] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Archiv-Internet/Vernutz-von-Gaming-Router-Netgear-XR500-Nighthawk-Pro-Gaming/td-p/612762)
I would like to avoid this:
The technical term for the DMZ mode would probably be “exposed host”. As the name suggests, the host configured in DMZ is fully exposed to the public Internet. All requests to public IPv4 end up directly there. But you have a NAT44 or double NAT.
@Nicolas_Bachmann wrote:
Synchronization speed
Upstream151135 kbit/s
Downstream652972 kbit/sSignal-to-noise ratioUpstream6.3 dBDownstream6.1 dBLast synchronization0 days 0 hours 19 MinDSLAM chipset type (network equipment)BroadcomVectoringActivatedFEC since last synchronizationUpstream55542Downstream63CRC since last SynchronizationUpstream0Downstream0Serial number5.1P2349B0311575Firmware version14.20.32
The values actually look good, except that you only had line synchronization 19 minutes ago. Did you do something there? Or was that just an “interruption”?
-> Don’t you have some powerline adapter in use?
These are “poison” with g.fast connections and can often cause connection interruptions.
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The values actually look good, except that you only had line synchronization 19 minutes ago. Did you do something there? Or was that just an “interruption”?
-> Don’t you have some powerline adapter in use?
These are “poison” with g.fast connections and can often cause connection interruptions.
As mentioned, cable from the socket, nothing in between.
I’m currently using Quickline’s fiber optic connection on my PC, which I still have until the end of the month.
I briefly plugged this cable into the Netgear router earlier, but that made no sense 🙂
The measured values from CNLAB are perfect, except that the ICMP ping has 1-2ms of jitter, which fiber optic does not have.