Simply look a little outside Swisscom’s box and look for the best offer for your current situation, which would probably solve several of your current problems.
Of course this wouldn’t make your Anschluss physically faster, but it would certainly be:
- cheaper
- again with a router including the possibility of a mini NAS on the USB-Anschluss
- Possibly with better TV picture quality
The 2 most obvious options would probably be Teleboy or iWay or a mixture of them.
With both, you would probably get a current Fritzbox as a rental router for your copper connection.
Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom
Some time ago I tried to operate a hard drive on the Internetbox3 as a NAS. I came to the conclusion that this solution is too bad to use.
I use two Synology NAS. These are fast and very reliable and all of my videos, music and picture files are on the NAS, where I can easily access them from my many SONOS boxes (audio) and the TV (videos, pictures). This has been the case for many years. The Swisscom NAS solution was never a useful solution for me and that’s why I understand that Swisscom is switching off this solution, which no longer exists on my Internetbox 4.
What does “no longer offered” mean here? The IB is my property, I bought it. And it has the NAS functionality. Swisscom can’t simply make changes to it. This is not a service that Swisscom provides but a function of my hardware. Swisscom can at most stop supporting the NAS, but it cannot destroy my property.
An interesting thought, but strictly speaking you only own the hardware.
And since the Swisscom Internet boxes are built in such a way that Swisscom’s own firmware and a Swisscom Internet subscription are required for operation, the value of the pure hardware is not sustainable.
Even if you switch to Swisscom’s own discount brand Wingo, the usage value of the blue Internet box you purchased and deliberately kept incompatible is reduced to the pure scrap value or to the residual value, which you may still be able to solve on Ricardo.
Since this is already described in the specifications of the Swisscom Internet boxes, and a buyer implicitly accepts this when purchasing the device, there is nothing illegal about it.
Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom
@Neppochir19 wrote:
What does “no longer offered” mean here? The IB is my property, I bought it. And it has the NAS functionality. Swisscom can’t simply make changes to it. This is not a service that Swisscom provides but a function of my hardware. Swisscom can at most stop supporting the NAS, but it cannot destroy my property.
Interesting argument.
Pass this on to the cash register and your legal protection, they should clarify it and present it to Swisscom!
I would also be interested to see what comes of it.
It’s exactly the same for me, I bought an SSD hard drive and connected it to the USB3 Anschluss of the Internetbox2. It only needs almost no power when accessing it.
The idea of switching this off is not sensible!
Consequences:
1. When the data is relocated, the data flow in the network will increase - more electricity consumption in general and significantly higher costs for the customer who switches to the cloud.
2. When moving to a NAS device: Purchasing a separate NAS device including a hard drive and significantly increased power consumption compared to the solution with a USB hard drive on the Internet box - again more costs for the customer!
The solution of connecting the hard drive directly to the PC is not feasible for me because several PCs access this hard drive and I don’t want to keep a PC running all day for nothing when it is not needed. (Solution with shared network drive under Windows)
So dear Swisscom, the only thing you’re achieving is annoying your customers!
UPDATE:
I solved it for myself like this: I bought a NAS drive, can be switched on via WOL and switches off automatically after an hour, so I still have my data at home and don’t need a lot of power unnecessarily.
Hello @Schaungugra14, exactly to the point! This is really very annoying and unnecessary.
The IB analyzed how many customers use the function and came to the conclusion that simplification definitely makes sense. In addition, the NAS runs as its own Linux application in the router, which uses the Samba protocol. However, it is known that this is always vulnerable to security gaps. It was therefore decided that the application part would be outphased.
I use the feature myself in the family and with the neighbors. I have two NAS and a Plex server in my home network and don’t need the router NAS. I think it also makes you more flexible and important data is also stored on the myCloud so that it doesn’t get lost in the event of an accident at home and I have an easy way to access it from anywhere if the power goes out at home.
Roger G.
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access
Hello @Roger G
I haven’t lost any data at home so far. Unfortunately, this cannot be said for Mycloud:
[https://www.inside-it.ch/post/upps-swisscom-loescht-daten-von-einigen-hundred-cloud-kunden-20190712](https://www.inside-it.ch/post/ upps-swisscom-deletes-data-of-several-hundred-cloud-customers-20190712)
Please leave the NAS feature!
A NAS can also burst into flames. For example, I have the following concept:
- Original data on PC
- Backup to second SSD in PC
- Backup to external hard drive in the vault
- Backup encrypted in the cloud
So I don’t need an energy-wasting NAS that runs 24 hours a day and only needs a few minutes a day.
Exactly …
That’s why I have a NAS on the IB2 and synchronize/save the same data in parallel in an out-cloud 😉 … but dear Swisscom, please don’t get the idea of breaking into my hardware in the home network and try to switch off the NAS on my Eugentum, otherwise we’ll talk to them soon Data protection officer, ombudsman and SRF1…
Don’t worry, Swisscom will not change anything on an IB2 that is connected to another IB in the LAN, only on the IBs that are connected directly to the Swisscom network.
However, everyone has to decide for themselves whether such a solution makes sense. The data throughput of the IB2’s USB port is very modest compared to a real NAS and the functionality does not correspond to a NAS. However, this solution requires a lot of energy if the part is connected to electricity around the clock.
@hed wrote:
A NAS can also burst into flames. For example, I have the following concept:
- Original data on the PC
- Backup to second SSD in PC
- Backup to external hard drive in the vault
- Backup encrypted in the cloud
So I don’t need an energy-wasting NAS that runs 24 hours a day and only needs a few minutes a day.
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… then you should tell Swisscom this, if you continued to use the function on the IB4, I wouldn’t have to buy any more devices and trigger unnecessary production and new purchases, this environmental stamp is far worse than the little electricity I now use. If Swisscom continued to work on the security of its NAS, it could be left on the IB as before and not cause any additional consumption.
