I used to carry out installations as an electrician and today I still have concerns about pulling a low-voltage cable with such thin insulation into the same pipe where there is a 240-volt power line; something like this used to be forbidden by the SEV in the heavy-current regulations.
I also have concerns about the mains hum from the live 400/240 volt line.
For me, there are no concerns about a fiber optic cable in such a case.
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@hed @WalterB @Roger G It is now allowed to lay low-current cables in one pipe at the same time as high-current 230 VAC cables. However, I would advise against this because of possible induction voltage on the low-voltage cable.
The connected device could possibly be damaged.
At KNX (The Green Monster)
The cable can also be pulled in with a 230 VAC TT cable. Together with T-wires it is forbidden due to interference on the KNX bus.
In the past, in order to save costs, people wanted to put the 12 VAC Sonnerie lines in the same pipe with 230 VAC and that was strictly forbidden.
But you also have to say that the regulations from the SEV and the Heavy Current Inspectorate were sometimes questionable; in my time, even some of the cantons had their own sockets.
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I did it; 1.5 years ago. I have one equipped with Ethernet. Four individual pipes run from the house to the branch shaft in the ground in front of the crest. From there there was just a pipe in which a 230V cable was already inserted.
The length of the common “route” is approx. 10 meters. I haven’t noticed any disadvantages so far. There is a switch with 3 network cameras and an AP on the Ethernet cable. Functions. No failures so far. My neighbor is an electrician and he said, “Don’t do it if there’s another way, but it’s not explicitly forbidden.”
Dear @pommel73
Listen to the recommendations of the experts, they helped me a lot a week ago and my internet connection and television have been working without any problems since then. Swisscom has super flat cables in various lengths. I laid a 25 meter long cable through 2 doors and fixed it to the ceiling with the glue gun and where possible placed it under the skirting board, everything works great.
@Roger G Hello Roger, something has happened😁
The “troublemakers” are gone. I also received and installed the IB3 and a booster. In my opinion, the booster doesn’t help with downloading, but it does help with uploading.
In the diagnosis, the CRC has been at 0 since IB3. I see that as a good sign, right?
I now also have the L subscription, my question is whether the speed over copper could possibly be higher? (I tasted blood😂)
Best regards
What kind of speed do you get with the speed test at the link below.
Importantly, measure directly via LAN, not via WLAN!
https://speedtest.cnlab.ch/de/https://speedtest.cnlab.ch/de/
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@WalterB wrote:
What kind of speed do you get with the speed test at the link below.
Importantly, measure directly via LAN, not via WLAN!
https://speedtest.cnlab.ch/de/https://speedtest.cnlab.ch/de/
The referenced browser speed test is not suitable for an Internet L, it is much better to download and install the cnlab speed test program on a PC.
This is the only way to get reliable values, because with an Internet L the browser-supported cnlab version shows values that are far too low.
Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom
With the speed test program installed on the Windows 10 PC, I get completely different values with the “M” subscription. Is that really true?
If that were the case, then the 5G booster would fully fulfill the “M” subscription even with poor reception values.
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Do you now have the “M” or “L” subscription?
Did you install the CNLAB on the PC as mentioned by @Werner, i.e. not via the link?
If you mean local by installation, OK.
https://www.cnlab.ch/speedtest
See info below from CNLAB!
Internet users use the cnlab Speedtest to measure the quality of their Internet connections. The cnlab speed test in the browser offers a quick overview of the internet connection with a data rate of less than 200 Mbit/s. However, the reliability of the measurement depends heavily on the performance of the computer and browser. For reliable tests with faster connections, it is better to use the Speedtest program (or the mobile app). These also offer more detailed evaluation options and automatic assistance in the event of problems
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In such a case, I would go back to the “M” subscription because you won’t reach 500 Mbit/s in the measurements, of course that’s your decision.
I currently have the “M” subscription and will see next year what the speed increase looks like with the 5G booster and then switch to the “L” subscription.
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With the IB3 I can switch the support of the 5G booster on or off for the device in question that carries out the speed measurement.
Picture 1 is with booster support and Picture 2 is without booster support.
With booster support.
Without booster support.
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@pommel73 wrote:
@Roger G Hello Roger, something has happened😁
The “troublemakers” are gone. I also received and installed the IB3 and a booster. In my opinion, the booster doesn’t help with downloading, but it does help with uploading.
In the diagnosis, the CRC has been at 0 since IB3. I see that as a good sign, right?
I now also have the L subscription, my question is whether the speed over copper could possibly be higher? (I tasted blood😂)
Kind regards
Haha, thanks for the feedback, well done 😀
Your Anschluss currently gives a real bit rate (not attainable or synch rate) of around 400mbps. And with you on the long, cool, right. But there is still some stabilization in there from the previous interruptions. This doesn’t “heal” itself so quickly because we track a certain Frist and Anschluss and only then release the “up-grooming”. But I can reset it myself, but then there is a 50 second interruption. Just let me know when I can do that.
We do not throttle Internet L customers in either the US or DS (i.e. open pipe). So if you can get 450mbps then the booster is giving you whatever extra it can get from the cell. I’ve already seen values well over 500mbps. If you were to go down to the M, as was disruptively suggested here, then the booster would be deactivated because the 300mbps is reached in the DS.
Roger G.
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access
