In order to confirm that the speed increase announced by Swisscom is just window dressing and is really borderline legally speaking, here is a small statistic taken from the Swisscom database (Opendata) which shows the distribution of median speeds achievable in all Swiss municipalities where we see that only 5% of municipalities have the infrastructure (FTTH or G.fast) to offer the speeds commercially offered. The vast majority of municipalities are in the 40-80 and 80-120 Mb/s segments.
Yes I also found this strategic analysis document, a little wordy and especially in German 🤨 But it is an excellent summary of the technological options for very high speed where it is mentioned several times that Super Vectoring (VDSL2 profile 35b) would be a good solution for increasing speed in FTTB/FTTC.
I am closing this topic because there is no longer any hope of having better speed on my line. The equipment in my building is technically (very) limited… Not only not G.Fast; but also unsuitable for the “Flex” connectivity model (auto adaptation of the synchronization rate to the capacity of the line)… According to level 3.
Furthermore, I have confirmation that the VDSL2 30a and 35b profiles will never be activated by Swisscom because they overlap with the starting frequencies of the G.Fast lines. Profile 30a was approved in 2011; but removed on 1.1.2018 (see my post here: [https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Routeur-mat%C3%A9riel/VDSL2-Activation-profil-30a/td-p/549675](https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Routeur- mat%C3%A9riel/VDSL2-Activation-profil-30a/td-p/549675) ). So no possibility of going higher than current sync speeds.
A short message for future and current inOne Internet S and M subscribers to draw their attention to the ambiguous and misleading side of the advertising displayed.
In fact, it announces flow rates of 50/50 or 200/100 which are only achievable under certain conditions and limits which are not all expressed in the footnote:
What is not said:
- The available fiber optic extension must be compatible with G.Fast technology (deployment projects started in 2017-2018)
- Fiber optic extension deployments carried out in 2018 do not guarantee compatibility with the speeds sold.
- Swisscom reserves the right to limit speeds depending on the deployment schedule in the region and its technical choices.
- The speeds announced are absolutely not guaranteed to be available throughout Switzerland, currently only 5% of municipalities are compatible with these offers.
With this communication we would be entitled to honest and transparent information, which is clearly not SWISSCOM’s desire.
Good evening.
Anyone know how to interpret this plan? This is the installation from the DSLAM to my building (in red at the bottom right). If anyone in the know could shed some light on the meaning of all these lines and numbers, what does the fiber represent? Copper? microCAN? etc.
Thanks in advance. I am also providing a copy of my figures from my internetbox 2 for those who would like to make the link with my previous message and what I am sending now.
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Small update on the subject, particularly concerning the fact that Swisscom deploys equipment that is not compatible with technologies that they themselves have declared mandatory for subscriber equipment. In this case I am referring to the support for the VDSL2 35b profile allowing 200/100 to be achieved in non-G.Fast mode.
This profile is a requirement from Swisscom concerning equipment at the subscriber’s premises to be recognized as approved in the document: “xDSL, G.fast and fiber CPE WAN requirement library” of July 15, 2016; but in the same document we see that the equipment deployed in FTTB are micro CAN MS5611S from Huawei or we see in the [technical specifications](https://www.huawei.com/ucmf/groups/public/documents/ webasset/hw_415802.pdf) that they only support up to profile 17a (“48 VDSL2 and POTS splitter ports with up to 17a profile”). On the other hand, FTTC or FTTS equipment is compatible… There is nothing to understand, while the FTTB offers the shortest lines, it is in this niche that we put equipment which limits the speeds.
Still surprising to loudly proclaim billions of investments for the future, when the equipment deployed does not support current standards. This is nonsense and above all demonstrates that the FTTB is there only to lock the market and prevent competition from accessing FTTH.
They announce that they are increasing the speed for almost the same price while in 95% of villages we do not receive the speed for which we pay.
When I signed my new subscription, they only announced that in 2 months the speed would increase to 200, but the day after installation following a significantly lower speed, I called them and they told me that what Their sales rep told me it wasn’t true. No increase in sight, so I remain at 40, and without the possibility of having UHD. On Netflix, UHD is available and yet it is less compressed than at Swisscom, which is the operator that compresses their program the most. Conclusion don’t listen to their sales pitch…