2 months later

Hello community

Thank you very much for your numerous registrations!
We are currently still in the pilot phase. So if you haven’t registered yet and are interested in testing our new router, you are welcome to do so.

We look forward to your registration! 🙂

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hed wrote:


@wolewo wrote:

And we with copper are once again looking into the tube…..


As usual…


Will be difficult without VDSL2 support and G.fast SFP+ module only in Q2/2022. But yes: copper is a third or fourth class technology😅

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#Jüre Poor copper customers.

For me it’s a must to check this out when I move to a new home or just then…

But I don’t have or won’t get a CB3 anyway.

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#user63


@Herby wrote:

#Jüre Poor copper customers.

For me it’s a must to check this out when I move to a new home or just then…

But I don’t have or won’t get a CB3 anyway.


For me, there are more important things than fiber optics when choosing a domicile; fiber optics would only be the deciding factor in a draw.

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The Centro Business is primarily not a consumer device.

What is important for this is high stability, failover and usually IP pass-through to the customer hardware.

The hardware, for example when it comes to WiFi, is not so important because it is usually switched off. Software functions for consumers are not important either.

So there are usually only evolutions in the area of ​​throughput.

This is also easily achieved on the bell wire using the CB 2.0. As long as there is software maintenance there is no problem.

The greater throughput is only important on fiber. So you can understand this decision.

Things are somewhat different in the consumer sector. With marketing and new WiFi generations, you can create needs that make copper customers jealous. We’ll leave out whether it makes sense or not. But purely in terms of throughput, a new generation of routers is currently not necessary for these customers.

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21 days later

That’s why I’m sticking with my FB 7583, because it can do a lot on the copper cable (including G-Fast, currently with 193 Mb/s / 44 Mb/s), has DECT and also processes TV without any problems.

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@wolewo

@peromei

That’s really comparing apples with pears, because the CB3 is not for private connections, but a business router for companies, now with a 10 Gig LAN port, which also operates its own telephony behind the Internet connection.

In the CB3, which is intended for pure “modem use”, installing a router’s own DECT station, which the target customers would never use anyway, would therefore be a complete waste of resources.

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Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom

Well - because in my area the “last mile” remains as a copper line for a long time, I swapped the CB 2.0 for the FB7583 a few months ago; this serves the entire intranet behind it.

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a year later

Lack of options for a pure business device:

  • No SNMP monitoring of the router
  • No 19″ hardware 1U
  • No two power supplies for normal network and UPS
  • All LAN ports must be 10Gbit/s
  • 5G backup should be built-in hardware, with external antenna port
  • FTTH 10Gbit/s should be a standard SFP+ module, and not some XGS-PON nonsense (proper WAN RX/TX with two fibers, that’s music)
  • Proper hardware from e.g. Cisco Systems and not some Chinese grouch

We’re talking about professional Internet connections and not Mickey Mouse Home Users, hardware/software that works is a threat to our existence.

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@Fleuffahie65

The CB3 is a simple entry-level product for the smallest SMEs with low demands.

Devices/services that meet your specifications and much more are available at Swisscom B2B.

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@Fleuffahie65 today caused a ruckus on various topics? Slept badly? Take a deep breath, drink a coffee and perhaps do a little information before you write.

The CB3 has American hardware (Broadcom) and the software comes from Italy/Poland. The fact that production takes place in China (as with almost all other offers) makes sense, since that is where the center of the world is currently located in terms of the production of such devices.

The target group is smaller SMEs and SOHO. Functionally, the CB3 is very closely linked to the services of the SME offering. Many services such as firewalls no longer run on the router but in the cloud.

Basically a more than sufficient device for the target group. It is also successful on the market and is better maintained in terms of security than many external router offerings.

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