Some time ago I wrote in another thread:

Although you can put a Swisscom TV-Box behind a USG with special know-how, you should avoid this whenever possible.

The new approach from @BurningRoli (who now certainly has a lot of USG special know-how) to bypass the USG for the Anschluss of the TV-Box via VLAN corresponds exactly to this strategy.

The following probably applies to every USG user: The simplest solution is to either connect the Swisscom TV-Box directly to the Internet box or, if this is not possible using a LAN cable, to virtually “loop” the connection through the USG via a VLAN construct.

Werner

@BurningRoli Sali Roli, no the USG is up again, the SC internet box no longer has a connection to the internet. neither live image nor replay, so it doesn’t start up at all because it can’t seem to establish a connection. I have a switch behind it and the SC connected directly to a port. I didn’t change anything about the port profiles, I just created a few networks, but they shouldn’t have any influence. What I’m not sure about is whether I put your JSON file in the right place? I have attached the PrtScreens for you. I read somewhere else that the IP 224.0.0.0 has to be in the firewall somewhere? Did I do something wrong?

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@BurningRoli wrote:

I would say: Such a real banana product! (it matures with the customer).

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If only it would at least mature… the firmware updates come with enormous frequency, but they don’t fix a lot of things that have been wrong for a long time.

I took part in requests x years ago in which hundreds of users in the official UniFi forums demanded, for example, that the dysfunctionally implemented WLAN time control be corrected. An absolute basic feature that every 40 franc router has had for 10 years. The “powerful” UniFi system still doesn’t work, even though the employees in the forums promised years ago that they wanted to correct it.

I mean, I’m not fundamentally against UniFi… for setting up a WiFi network over a slightly larger area or several levels, it’s just a very comfortable and affordable solution that I use regularly. But at the end of the day, you still have to realistically say that this company, with its constantly new (and renewed) products and constantly new software versions, obviously places too much emphasis on bringing new things onto the market and not enough on making the existing functions reliable and to function stably. (So ​​actually similar to QNAP, although much less bad ;-))

Hi @BurningRoli

Thank you for your detailed answer.

That would be a possibility, since I have FTTH I actually wanted to eliminate the Internet box. But another problem is Swisscom’s DynDns. There is no data to get it running without an Internet box. I think Swisscom simply doesn’t want that either. I actually don’t think it’s a good thing, since the subscription fee stays the same and it’s up to me which device I want to use. Sure, I could just use another DynDns provider, but which one works really reliably with the USG/UDM.

I also follow the UDM discussion. I think it’s even worse that there isn’t even any documentation as to which functions are actually implemented. So it may be that IGMP ds will never appear.

I actually wanted to do that with my own VLan anyway. However, I use Plex on the Swisscombox and the Syno as the server, which should then be in a different VLan.

Greetings mAik

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@maik wrote:

Hi @BurningRoli

Thank you for your detailed answer.

That would be a possibility, since I have FTTH I actually wanted to eliminate the Internet box. But another problem is Swisscom’s DynDns. There is no data to get it running without an Internet box. I think Swisscom simply doesn’t want that either. I actually don’t think it’s a good thing, since the subscription fee stays the same and it’s up to me which device I want to use.

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Try with:

Host name: xxx.internet-box.ch

Username and password from the Swisscom login.

At least that’s how the service works for me on a Fritz!Box 5490

@Herby

Thanks for the tip. I don’t own USG/UDM yet. I wanted to find out more about it first.

I’m actually very interested in these Ubiquiti products. However, apart from the lousy WiFi coverage of the IB Plus, everything works fine. I know the USG doesn’t have WiFi, so I would do this with 2 APs from Unifi.

I also like to tinker around a bit, but I don’t want to upset my family members if they suddenly no longer have access to the TV boxes or the Syno externally. The USG / UDM would therefore have to cover these basic functions. It doesn’t help me if I can administer my network well and set it up according to my wishes and then the “normal” everyday things no longer work.

Greetings mAik

@cslu… there are also bananas that rot on the tree.

I completely agree with you, marketing before sustainability. There is still a lot of potential in SW development. UBNT maintains too many HW platforms.

I now have an access point, the IW-AC-PRO, which now has LTS status. This means I have to replace it within a year, after which it will no longer be supported. Greetings from planned obsolescence!

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@maik wrote:

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I also like to tinker around a bit, but I don’t want to upset my family members if they suddenly no longer have access to the TV boxes or the external Syno. The USG / UDM would therefore have to cover these basic functions. It doesn’t help me if I can administer my network well and set it up according to my wishes and then the “normal” everyday things no longer work.

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Trust me, messing around won’t get any better. The saying: “Daddy, did you do something on the Internet again” is well known, and the answer is also: “It’ll be right back.” There is always an issue to be fixed in the UBNT environment, see previous post by @cslu.

@BurningRoli Do you have practical and good instructions for using the VLAN solution? So we could get the box back into operation quickly and easily? Otherwise there is almost no way to solve the entire network in a simple way so that it doesn’t go via the USG…

@BurningRoli

That’s exactly what intimidates me, but I’m also excited by the challenge. I’m not in a hurry. I will monitor the topic carefully and decide whether the product is right for me.

@BurningRoli So that’s theoretically working, but we have a network cable that goes down to the TV room. That’s why we switched to Unifi, because theoretically the stuff works. (AC-AP and switch etc.) but we have the problem that Swisscom comes in with internet where we can’t do anything. as if the internet box comes up and over the network cable we go down to the switch where the TV box is. Unfortunately it is not possible to pull two cables down… The structure here sounds more complicated than it is 😄

I recommend not using USG either way.

I think the unifi UAP’s are cheap and good and can do quite a lot in terms of functionality. But they are also designed more for the business sector. But because they are so well-known and simple, consumers also like to use them. But then you are surprised that the WPS or the time control does not work or exist in the way you are used to with home devices.

The USW’s are also fine if you want to configure them comfortably.

But I don’t see the USG in a professional environment. There are too many queues in many areas. These are also rather unsuitable for home use because certain functions still have to be muddled in via json.

This may be because home users like the supposed graphics via the unifi controller. However, the UAP’s are not good devices in terms of either software or hardware. My opinion.

Fortunately, the UAPs can also be easily integrated independently of the USG.

Good day everybody

I am also facing the same challenge because I want to switch to Swisscom. In the Advanced WLAN configuration I have now found the following option. Does this replace the adjustments via.json file?

Thank you @BurningRoli

Hi @IronUrs

No, it doesn’t. This is a mechanism that optimizes multicast transmissions via WLAN.

LAN related settings such as IGMP snooping can be found in the Networks section per defined LAN, the header Validation=off via config.properties.json.

The most efficient way to connect the SCTV boxes in a Unifi environment is via the VLAN variant.

I’m writing instructions for this.

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@BurningRoli wrote:

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The most efficient way to connect the SCTV boxes in a Unifi environment is via the VLAN variant.

I’ll write instructions for this.

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What exactly does that mean? Divide the switches with VLAN so that the SCTV boxes then run directly in the IB network and the rest then via the USG network?

Wow, thank you very much. A guide would be awesome.

@kaetho Yes, exactly, the IB subnet is also routed via VLAN to the SCTV boxes on the USG.

With the USG, the configuration of the IGMP proxy is very error-prone; most problems arise from syntax errors in the config.gateway.json and the file formatting. This is shown by the many posts and PM’s on this topic.

Another aspect is that Ubiquiti uses the new unifiOS for the new UDM / UDM pro routers and currently no longer includes an IGMP proxy. The USG3P and Pro4 are based on EdgeOS and Vyatta.

After 3 years I have now switched IGMP Proxy to VLAN to determine the difference. I can report at this point that it works perfectly. It took me 10 minutes, cursing twice and 1 ETH cable. But more on that later.

Greetings

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UDM = Unifi Dream Machine (what a name 🤔, could also be an IoT enabled toaster)

So in terms of a VLAN config for the USW?

Because this also works with any other VLAN-capable switches.

@BurningRoli

I thought again about switching from Quickline to Swisscom. My setup today is:

Complete Unifi network including USG, switches and AP behind the QL modem. Various VLANs and firewall rules are configured and running perfectly.

Since I don’t feel like dealing with the entire topic (multicast, IGMP snooping), I’ve now thought about the following. My LAN cabling in the house would allow this. The question is whether I could achieve this with the IB3 and whether this makes sense?

I configure the IB3 to any IP range other than 192.168.1.0/24

• I forward an IB3 port as a DMZ to my USG. The USG then works for my LAN as a DHCP server in the IP range 192.168.1.50 - 254
• I connect a port of the IB3 directly to the SCTV box via cable and bypass my Unifi LAN via cable.

Thank you for a short feedback, whether I am on the right track and whether the IB3 offers something like that?