Does Init7 apparently need such spam? Sad!
What does init7 have to do with this post? Of course it’s off-topic, but I find this reaction exaggerated.
There should even be users here who use both ISPs 😉. And the IB doesn’t start to burn when it’s next to an Init7 router 😂.
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Certainly a very good choice for pure organic internet - but I see the big deal in plugging in a Wingo or Swisscombox with a TV box rather than setting up an Apple TV with the TV7 app or multicasting the stream into any IPTV apps.
In addition, Init7 doesn’t offer telephony, so the Gröseli would have to set up SIP and DECT if it wants a landline (and that’s what Gröselis are into).
The Swisscom Internetbooster is also interesting for me on one of the many “Höger”, which can’t manage 100 Mbit/s via copper - as far as I know, it’s currently one of the only ways to increase speed via mobile communications with bonding (at least the v4 TCP) without running into the fair use clause with the mobile provider.
LG
r00t
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From experience I can say that in the case of DSL problems, the quickest way to rectify any faults is to contact Swisscom or Wingo directly. I have also had problems with a Wingo customer, I had to contact Wingo first but within about 2 hours I received a call from Cablex to make an appointment
I don’t know what other support requests there could be with pure Internet except those that have to be resolved by Swisscom in the end anyway because they are on the copper line
And for “0815 users”, as @r00t says, Init7 is no longer an issue anyway because of the lack of telephony and difficult TV solution
I have nothing against Init7, on the contrary, competition is always good in any market, but I don’t quite understand what you’re hoping for here on the Swisscom forum
People for whom Init7 is an option have already optimised the maximum from their internet subscriptions and people who are currently with Swisscom hardly switch to Init7 for price reasons, much more to Wingo/Mbudget or if fibre is available the Salt offer is also pretty good
Copper7 is not a new Init7 product, it has been around for a very long time and is technically a BBCS product from Swisscom, which Init7 leases from Swisscom for the copper connection.
The disadvantages are:
- the lack of landline telephony service, which you have to rent additionally via an external SIP provider for every Init7 Internet subscription if required
- no option for a TV subscription with a classic remote control with channel numbers and numbered TV channels
In my opinion, the Init7 subscriptions are only really interesting in combination with a fibre optic connection, but as long as you are still on copper, the subscriptions from Wingo, M-Budget, Teleboy and iWay still offer the better services as an overall package.
When looking for a copper alternative to a blue subscription, I would therefore not choose a Copper7, but if no landline flat rate is required but landline availability is still desired, I would rather choose Wingo, but with a landline flat rate I would rather choose M-Budget, Teleboy or iWay.
In principle, of course, all providers will work, the differences between the individual subscriptions can also be researched on the Internet and ultimately, which is really good, we no longer have a monopoly on providers and every customer can really decide for themselves what exactly is the best solution for them.
Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom
qxwlbn6ksfjzp6ohygtr6aceiuk Older people in particular, or those who are not IT-savvy, may not be happy with Wingo and comparable providers.
What a load of rubbish!
Once again, older people are being misused as dummies. I know many young people who have little idea and hardly understand any instructions because they have hardly learnt to read and understand properly.
Older people today are much more IT-savvy than many younger Generation Z people. These older people use online banking, online timetables, electronic tickets with SBB Easy-Ride or above all with Fairtiqe and have long since stopped needing ticket machines and ticket counters.
This discrimination against older people really bothers me, as I experience the opposite every day. Incidentally, I will be 77 years old this year, according to the motto “life only begins at 77”, loosely based on Udo Jürgens.
It’s no use, I see the author’s contribution as surreptitious advertising, which never belongs in a forum like this.
The fact is that after deducting the family and combination discount, I pay 89.80 /mt. for Blue Internet L, Blue TC L, Blue telephony). With Blue Internet M it would be 79.80.
For this favourable price I have 99.99999 trouble-free, fast Internet, brilliant TV and an excellent fixed-line telephone network. If you have all subscriptions with Swisscom, including my wife’s mobile phone, you benefit from a CHF 50.00 discount every month.
qxwlbn6ksfjzp6ohygtr6aceiuk Now Cooper7 is a product that is at least on a par with the Swisscom offer in every respect.
Whoever believes is blessed!
qxwlbn6ksfjzp6ohygtr6aceiuk When I read these polemical hostilities above, I ask myself twice whether I want to be a customer of a sect / ideological organisation…
I suspect that you have no idea about cults. You can get into cults quickly but hardly ever get out. From this point of view, Sunrise and Salt would be “super cults”. With Swisscom, I have the advantage of being able to cancel within a short time after many years (not just by phone or e-mail) if the quality deteriorates. For me, the only thing that counts is quality and a price that corresponds to the quality. The price-performance ratio at Swisscom is excellent. I don’t want to settle for anything less - and if it were even free, it would be exactly the same.
gian I can only agree with that!
IT affinity is not at all about age but primarily about interest
Unfortunately, there are many people who don’t want to know about it or even refuse to do so. These are usually the employees of my corporate customers who generate the most support requests and are the most troublesome because they are not prepared to help in any way with solving the problem (clicking away error messages, not wanting to go through simple troubleshooting steps with me, if it is user-error (which it usually is) not wanting to know how they can prevent the problem in the future etc.).
Fortunately a minority but still very tedious
r00t What does init7 have to do with this post? Of course it’s off-topic, but I find this reaction exaggerated.
There are even supposed to be users here who use both ISPs 😉. And the IB doesn’t start to burn when it’s next to an Init7 router 😂.
Perhaps my reaction may indeed seem exaggerated, but I didn’t attack anyone personally. The user with the many numbers and letters in his name who means nothing and has only been registered here in the community for a few hours and writes such texts is simply advertising and nothing else. Yes, that can be brilliant marketing. But… I just think it’s a shame that the Swisscom forum, which is primarily about questions, concerns and problems with Swisscom products, is being misused here for pure advertising. Of course you can also discuss OT about other providers and their offers, which is also done here and I definitely think that’s a good thing. But I can’t really understand what the user is trying to achieve with this post. I don’t find Copper7 with a copper connection at all attractive in terms of price, with many other disadvantages. If you’re looking to save money or simply want to save money, Wingo and the like are clearly cheaper.
Samsi I also reported it for surreptitious advertising @CorinP has admonished @qxwlbn6ksfjzp6ohygtr6aceiuk for it.
qxwlbn6ksfjzp6ohygtr6aceiuk This user has registered for this post and is using dodgy credentials.
Roger G.
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access
Contra Swisscom is that their cheapest Internet S is not at all attractive in terms of price.
Pro Swisscom are their loss-leader offers, for example CHF 39 per month, but only for fibre customers.
However, this is more of a discrimination against other customers.
Their routers are also in favour of Swisscom, although they are expensive.
