Internet-Box standard vers. Internet-Box 3

    • Is the Internet-Box 3 necessary for us or is the old standard Internet box sufficient? I ask this because I can’t find any comparative data, reviews or tests anywhere. We have copper with an overhead line from a distributor that has often gone on strike (after lightning or storms, loose contact). We have a standard Internet box in the house. The Internet-Box 3 has been offered to us at a promotional price for some time now. But exactly with or since this offer we have the “feeling” that the performance of the box is in the basement - literally, because where we used to be able to use WiFi all day long in the basement without any problems, now it always fails. I wanted to find out more and ask, can Swisscom just tweak the performance like that or is it perhaps a coincidence? Would you recommend the Internet-Box 3 to us either way? Is it more powerful (range) than the standard Internet box? Or is copper not worth buying anyway?

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      • Solutionselected by MirkoP

      I can only recommend the Internet Box 3, it is better than the standard Internet Box in every respect, especially the better WiFi 6 offers much more WiFi range and throughput when the connection is poor (i.e. the WiFi is faster when you are far away from the router)

      What should be taken into account, however: According to swisscom.ch/checker, how fast the internet is available to you. If that is over 100 Mbit/s then gFast is available, so a faster connection to the Internet itself is also possible with the Internet-Box 3. But it is extremely important that the error on the line is corrected; if the line is bad, gFast is very susceptible to failure

      If less than 100 Mbit/s is available then it is only VDSL2. But with VDSL2 it is also recommended to correct the line errors

    I can only recommend the Internet Box 3, it is better than the standard Internet Box in every respect, especially the better WiFi 6 offers much more WiFi range and throughput when the connection is poor (i.e. the WiFi is faster when you are far away from the router)

    What should be taken into account, however: According to swisscom.ch/checker, how fast the internet is available to you. If that is over 100 Mbit/s then gFast is available, so a faster connection to the Internet itself is also possible with the Internet-Box 3. But it is extremely important that the error on the line is corrected; if the line is bad, gFast is very susceptible to failure

    If less than 100 Mbit/s is available then it is only VDSL2. But with VDSL2 it is also recommended to correct the line errors

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    Hello @finewood

    The Internet box is end of live, if you are offered a discounted IB3, I would take it.

    Enter the following in the browser: 192.168.1.1

    And click on the first green tick on the left and post the content here.

    Then you can see how stable your line is.

    What the Swisscom Checker tells you would be interesting:

    swisscom.com/checker what speed you should get.

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    Greetings Lorenz

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        Wow, thank you very much for these comments.
        When I had the first network for the use of videotex installed in my company in 1988, there was still a modem purring next to every PC with a then-amazing 50MB hard drive 🤣. But I always had everything installed. Now that I’m retired, I’m already overwhelmed when it comes to this matter. For example, I had to find out about the term “gFast”. I didn’t know that at all. That’s brilliant, because I have VDSL2 with over 100 Mbit/s despite the vulnerable overhead line. With gFast I could finally use my blueTV S better.

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        @finewood The line is not completely clean, the CRC should actually be close to 0, but with an older overhead line there can be quite a few if the line sways in the wind

        The SNR is also not exactly good at almost 20, actually 6 dB would be the goal, something was stabilized there (higher SNR = worse speed -> indication of a problem with the line)

        What does swisscom.ch/checker say?

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          Hello @finewood

          There are 4 different types of cable for overhead lines, depending on how old your line is.

          There are also several types of cable for the house entry from the roof truss to the GS coarse fuse.

          From ancient lead-coated cables to the latest generation.

          It may also be that your house installation is not clean.

          Maybe you can take a photo of the GS and post it here, then you can see what kind of cable arrives there and what kind goes on.

          But only a technician on site can measure the overhead line and determine the exact measured values ​​and pinpoint where the fault lies along the route.

          Greetings Lorenz

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          1. The IB3 will not make the internet connection faster.
          2. The IB3 is significantly stronger in the home network, e.g. better WiFi
          3. HD TV requires 8 MBit/s. VDSL100 is more than enough.
          4. Call Swisscom. They should check whether the overhead line can be replaced with FTTH 😉
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          @5018 @finewood You have gFast

          The IB3 will definitely make the line faster, with Internet S at least in upload

          However, I would recommend sorting out the line problems before switching to gFast, i.e. before switching to the IB3

          Of course you can just try it, but gFast (which you would get with the IB3) may lead to more problems if the line is bad

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          The line in the house (actually there are 2 cables: Anschluss private and Anschluss commercial, which is idle) has been checked several times, i.e. after every reported interruption. Apparently they have to do it that way, even if they are sure they are okay and they always have been okay. The problem was always the overhead line or the connections in the external distributor. We also think that the current interruptions do not affect the overhead line or only indirectly. It’s probably actually the poor performance of the IB. That’s why I’m focusing on the IB3.

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          @finewood Yes, exactly, I would just install the IB3 and then see what the line values ​​are

          If the line in House is OK (direct U72 cable to a single active telephone socket) then the error is on the overhead line and will be fixed by Swisscom (Cablex) free of charge

          However, I suspect that you still have problems in-house (old installation, several active boxes with bridge taps, old glass coarse fuses). Your trusted electrician can best take a look at this

          If you want to save something, you can often find IB3s on Ricardo for under 50 Fr.

          These can be easily activated after a reset using swisscom.ch/start

          Or you can call the hotline and if you tell them about your interruptions they will give you the IB3 for 50 francs or even free of charge

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          Yes, we will do it that way and try it with the IB3 for Fr. 99.-. If the performance is inadequate, we will fight with our 8 neighbors, who also have an overhead line, for a quick implementation of the FTTH. Or I sell it for Fr. 199.- on Tutti 😂

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