@millernet
I absolutely agree with you on your basic argument, but just two small additions:

- Wingo and M-Budget are not subsidiaries of Swisscom (Switzerland) AG, but purely registered trademarks without their own legal personality, whereby “Wingo” is a proprietary trademark of Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, and M-Budget is a registered trademark of Migros Genossenschaft, which is registered by means of Franchising agreement with Swisscom (Switzerland) AG

- You are mistaken about the low-budget price of Wingo, because it is still CHF 15/month lower (when collecting the cheapest permanent promos) than the CHF 59.90 you mentioned and is broken down as follows:

A 100 Internet subscription easily satisfies all the needs of a normal multi-person household with regard to the subscribed bandwidth, because without operating your own servers or special applications, the difference in performance compared to more powerful Internet offerings will not be noticeable at all.

As a conclusion to the entire price and offer discussion, one can simply say:

Due to its size, Swisscom is already forced to make an attractive and competitive offer for every conceivable customer segment in order to be able to really hold its own against the competition from third parties, which means that Swisscom is currently one of the most expensive and expensive products with its “blue” product the product “Wingo” with one of the lowest-priced offers on the market.

From a moral and ethical point of view, you can’t really accuse this dual pricing strategy of being a rip-off, because Swisscom offers it both for a premium image and for a low-cost need.

It is therefore solely up to us customers to decide which price segment we want to choose individually and what we ultimately want to pay for it.

In my opinion, when you argue “you can just cancel”, you Swisscom understanders are forgetting an aspect that has a certain significance, at least for me. I have been a Swisscom Internet customer for over 20 years. I have several Bluewin email addresses that I have used to register in countless places.

So if I want to leave Swisscom without “losing” my email addresses, I have to take out a Bluewin Email Advanced subscription for 9 francs. Otherwise I have to announce the change of email address everywhere.

I think for some people switching providers isn’t necessarily their first choice. Why? For convenience or because the “cheaper” providers are just that – cheap.

I therefore assume that Swisscom knows very well that for many it is not so easy to switch, also because depending on the region there are not that many providers to choose from. So some will simply hold their ground and swallow the umpteenth deterioration in supply or price increase.

It is quite possible that this could one day become a problem for Swisscom. If taxpayers are suddenly asked to answer for corporate management mistakes (e.g. foreign adventures)…

But yes, this is probably as unlikely as Swissair going bankrupt… 🙂

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@Anonymous wrote:

….So if I want to leave Swisscom without “losing” the email addresses, I have to take out a Bluewin Email Advanced subscription for 9 francs.

🙂

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No, you don’t have to. You can keep it for free - with only 1GB per mailbox instead of 5GB

Yes, this is possible with one email address. But what about several email addresses?

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@Anonymous wrote:

Yes, this is possible with one email address. But what about several email addresses?

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You can separate each address into your own/new Swisscom login

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@Anonymous wrote:

In my opinion, when you argue “you can just cancel”, you Swisscom understanders are forgetting an aspect that has a certain significance, at least for me. I have been a Swisscom Internet customer for over 20 years. I have several Bluewin email addresses that I have used to register in countless places.

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1995: I became one of the very first customers of the newly founded “Swissonline”.

At that time there were only two major Internet providers in Switzerland (Swissonline and Bluewin - all the others were added over time).

2002: Tia, what if I’m dissatisfied with the provider? Visited the homepage of a web host and followed the instructions there. Regarding the email account it is no longer a problem ;-).

Swissonline has now been swallowed up by Cablecom.

2006: Cablecom had really annoyed me - I went to the Swisscom shop and became one of the very first customers for that “Bluewin TV” and all the other services -> goodbye and goodbye to Cablecom.

Thanks to that precaution about four years ago, email was no longer a problem ;-).

Glotzologist

@Anonymous there are email alternatives,

that every cell phone owner already has:

Either G-Mail for Android devices or Apple Mail for iPhone devices.

It is not smart to depend on a provider (ISP) email address.

Anger and hatred should be condemned, entirely according to your opinion. But I don’t see anger or hate anywhere here. Anger is more of the right term. Anger at increasingly falling into the stranglehold of quasi-monopoly companies who, knowing that there are no viable alternatives, squeeze the lemon to the last drop. And yes, they do it because they can. They can do it because (too) many consumers resign and say “that’s just the way it is”.

Please don’t misunderstand me, you can put up with all of this, just like many people in this country no longer go to the polls because they have the feeling “they’ll do what they want anyway”. But do you have the feeling that things will get better if everyone puts up with everything? Probably not.

Now a little special lesson for you, who are so anxious that everyone should treat each other nice and friendly: people who have not yet given up and rebel against such hardships, such as an almost 50% increase in costs without any real additional benefit, Calling them misbehaving children is extremely derogatory. So, for you too: think first and then post. OK?

Thank you very much for your setup. I will probably also switch to Wingo. Question about your list, but these promotional prices are history again, right?

@So-nicht It’s funny, you can’t even leave it here. Everyone has their opinion, but what you said here yesterday was kindergarten. No adult writes like that and you know that full well! How was that again? Think first then write? Says exactly the right thing here!

@finewood

Just to clarify… Nowhere did I say that you should run away, that you are social cases, etc… Please stick to the truth. I’ll let it go now, but I won’t allow myself to be accused of such untruths!

No, we don’t always know everything better, but we have said that by forgoing certain options or making adjustments to the subscription, you can definitely save some money. But if you really want to save money, there are cheaper alternatives from other providers. I’m just wondering… what else do we want to say? I don’t know of any trick that you can use to prevent the price increase from taking effect. I don’t think the increase is good either, but there’s nothing we can do, right? I think that should definitely say everything.

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@Stiechupo87 wrote:

….I will probably switch to Wingo too. Question about your list, but these promotional prices are history again, right?

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The Wingo promos change every few weeks and also repeat themselves. Just wait for the right promo. Or change it later, because with Wingo promos usually also apply to existing customers

Can anyone report on the weaknesses of Wingo. About a year ago I was in contact with Wingo and the nice gentleman advised me against using the Internet at Wingo. He said the WiFi signals are significantly weaker than with Swisscom. I will not be happy with Swisscom’s solution. Is that still the case?

I have 2 TVs in my household. One is connected with a cable, the other via WiFi. We also operate various I Pads and I Phons. What do you think, will I notice that?

Thank you very much

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@Stiechupo87 wrote:

….. About a year ago I was in contact with Wingo and the nice gentleman advised me against using the Internet at Wingo. He said the WiFi signals are significantly weaker than with Swisscom.

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I can’t confirm that the Wingo routers have the same hardware (including WLAN) and their drivers as the Swisscom routers. Only the GUI functions are somewhat reduced.

The Swisscom WLAN boxes also work without any problems.

Well, the same hardware is true. But a year ago Swisscom was using the IB3/4, and at Wingo they were often still using the IB2.

I don’t think anyone will deny that the WLAN experience with the IB2 is not the same as the IB3/4 😉

You hug @millernet who writes “If you live on the subsistence level, you are well advised not to use Swisscom products…… ”. I assume that you share his opinion and that confirms me 100%. In this forum I have now asked a few questions or made a few observations, but received no answers or then received didactic, arrogant answers. @millernet would write “If you don’t like it, you would be well advised not to use this forum?” I’ll do it from tomorrow…

@“x”#29799Do you know the saying about calling into the forest? That’s exactly how it is.

@kaetho Hmm, I just understand the train station. So Wingo is currently worse than Swisscom and how is this noticeable? Sorry, but I’m not familiar with your technical terms 🙂

@Stiechupo87

It is clear that certain compromises have to be accepted for the price. The question always remains how important it is to you. Support is also not always available and is always chargeable over the telephone.

Take a look at this thread: [https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Internet-general/Wingo-TV-und-blue-TV-Unterschied/td-p/778928](https://community. swisscom.ch/t5/Internet-general/Wingo-TV-und-blue-TV-Unterschied/td-p/778928)