@Lach Neither a cloud nor a local HDD on the Internet box are, on their own, suitable for preventing data loss. The cloud can be deleted (even if accidentally due to mismanipulation), and the local HDD can also die overnight. The result is the same: data on this medium is lost…

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@kaetho

A NAS can also burst into flames. For example, I have the following concept:

- Original data on PC

- Backup to second SSD in PC

- Backup to external hard drive in the vault

- Backup encrypted in the cloud

So I don’t need an energy-wasting NAS that runs 24 hours a day and only needs a few minutes a day.

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Exactly …

That’s why I have a NAS on the IB2 and synchronize/save the same data in parallel in an out-cloud 😉 … but dear Swisscom, please don’t get the idea of ​​breaking into my hardware in the home network and try to switch off the NAS on my Eugentum, otherwise we’ll talk to them soon Data protection officer, ombudsman and SRF1…

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@RotscherMur

Don’t worry, Swisscom will not change anything on an IB2 that is connected to another IB in the LAN, only on the IBs that are connected directly to the Swisscom network.

However, everyone has to decide for themselves whether such a solution makes sense. The data throughput of the IB2’s USB port is very modest compared to a real NAS and the functionality does not correspond to a NAS. However, this solution requires a lot of energy if the part is connected to electricity around the clock.

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@hed wrote:

@kaetho

A NAS can also burst into flames. For example, I have the following concept:

- Original data on the PC

- Backup to second SSD in PC

- Backup to external hard drive in the vault

- Backup encrypted in the cloud

So I don’t need an energy-wasting NAS that runs 24 hours a day and only needs a few minutes a day.


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… then you should tell Swisscom this, if you continued to use the function on the IB4, I wouldn’t have to buy any more devices and trigger unnecessary production and new purchases, this environmental stamp is far worse than the little electricity I now use. If Swisscom continued to work on the security of its NAS, it could be left on the IB as before and not cause any additional consumption.

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As if I knew it. Without knowing that the function was ending, I started researching a NAS today. Swisscom has not yet actively informed me about this deterioration, which is essential for me.

For several years I have been using the Central Storage application to centrally access all data in my household using different PCs, smartphones and TVs. I first used a USB 3 hard drive and since November 2020 a USB 3 Samsung T5 1 TB SSD on the Internet Box 3.

The performance is satisfactory, nothing more. Opening an Office file sometimes happens immediately, but it can also take five seconds. As a reward for my patience, I have so far had an easy-to-manage solution with no maintenance effort and only had to invest a little.

Is it realistic for an advanced PC user of retirement age to still have to worry about the extensive functionality of a NAS?
Will it be manageable if I concentrate on the network storage function?
My favorite: Synology 220+, 2× 2 TB WD Red Plus (CMR) preinstalled, Raid 1, hot swappable.
Is the 2 GB DDR4 RAM sufficient for my average requirements? Upgrading is possible.

How does the data speed compare (access to the network via WLAN 6)?
1) PREVIOUSLY: SSD on USB 3 of the Internet Box 3?

2) SUCCESSION: Synology 220+ to Gbit-Anschluss of the Internet Box 3?

I would like to thank you for your input today.

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@rene1212

It’s never too late for a NAS and you’re never too old for one, especially if, as you say, you have good PC skills.

For an advanced PC user, it remains manageable if you optionally use additional features such as VPN servers.

A NAS does not belong on the WLAN but definitely on the LAN (the DS220+ also has no WLAN).

The speed should be 3-4 times faster. However, you have to be careful with Syno’s speed specifications, because you can only achieve 220 MB/s if you operate the two gigabit interfaces in a LAG, and this requires special network switches.

Remark:

The high energy consumption of a NAS should not be neglected; with 2 hard drives the box should be in the 30 - 40 watt range. Therefore, as an alternative, you should consider a cloud solution and a simple network or USB storage that you connect only for backups.

The noise of the fans and hard drives must also be taken into account.

If you look at the performance data of the DS220+ (50 users at the same time, 40 VPN connections at the same time,…) I consider it to be oversized for private use.

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@RotscherMur wrote:

Ps: IB2 10.1 watts vs Synology DS 220 14.8 watts - calls itself “one of the most energy-efficient NAS” 🙄


@RotscherMur

The DS 220 has 15 watts without the hard drives. With two hard drives it is 30 - 40 watts.

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… in standby 😉

… I’m talking about normal operation for a mini Nas, which is (could be) still offered on an IB

… but of course, these watts and the device could also be saved in my suggestion for continuation (for many users with little demand for a real NAS).

… one device instead of many additional connected new purchases

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@bitracer

It’s not an ugly compromise of a NAS, but pure, simple network storage that is sufficient for >80% of use cases and customers.

The elimination of this feature does not speed up router development at all, because the hardware and software for this feature are standard components/standard modules.

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Roger G

I can certainly understand the anger that is now coming to light.

Optimization (saving) will probably be the deciding factor for Swisscom.

Which I can definitely understand.

Unfortunately, I can’t really have a say because I’ve been running “a power-guzzling NAS” for years.

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Or rather, after almost 3700 days, I did something new that is now more energy efficient when not in use 😉

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#user63