@Stiejauseu10 I can partly understand your anger. But you have a cable connection with UPC and this is a Swisscom customers help customers forum. There are enough customers here (including me) who are annoyed about the sometimes poor EPG from the new data provider, but with the best will in the world we can’t help the UPC or SRG. Nobody is forcing anyone to subscribe.
Agus fágaimíd siúd mar atá sé
It doesn’t matter whether I’m a Swisscom customer or not when it comes to EPG data. You can only forward them because you are not the sender.
I also feel sorry for Swisscom, who get endless requests and can’t do anything except play relay stations.
So I think it’s ok and you also have the right to post here as a UPC TV signal user.
Kind regards, Chris
The endless inquiries about incorrectly timed recordings due to incorrect EPG signals, there seem to be more private video recorders than you think.
As I said, Swisscom is just a relay station, like it used to be on the radio, or I act as a server for emails… I just pipe them on, Swisscom will soon be using EPG, Swisscom will hardly generate any EPG signals 😉 laugh… .
lg
Chris
@Stiejauseu10 Of course you can write here, I already wrote in the UPC forum after I was no longer a UPC customer, I just want to point out that we as customers can’t help either. Although I get the impression from the UPC forum that it’s not any better.
Agus fágaimíd siúd mar atá sé
OK, you’re right, if it concerns the Bluewin TV box, with ondemand or something like that… but BluewinTV live from the TV station would also have to forward the few signals,
.. but then I would have to be quite wrong, yes.. ok, who knows..
In general, it not only affects Bluewin customers, but also others all over Europe, even if you do it via satellite, then I would be surprised if you have a crystal ball. I would like that too.
Maybe Bluewin has enough power over the TV broadcasting stations, in contrast to Me??
lg
Christopher
@Stiejauseu10 wrote:
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Maybe Bluewin has a sufficiently strong word of power to the TV broadcasting stations…
Barely. bluewin can’t even manage to get exact EPG data from SRF1, as you have already discovered yourself. And across Europe, bluewin is a very small fish and a special case anyway (i.e. not bluewin, but the entire TV landscape in Switzerland). EPG data, which is sometimes not adapted to reality, is of less interest.
@ kaetho
(to occasionally in addition to the program data)
If you take the two three minutes that are always there and then let the EPG “running state” run when recording,
The 3 minutes of key moments at the end of the film or documentary are always missing.
Which is a shame…
@hed
Yes, I can also do this with my TV headend, generally I could set a 2-hour follow-up time in the recorder settings.
In the front of the EPG Channel, I could set each channel separately, before/after and/or “EPG Running State”, which then becomes the recorder settings as a priority.
So it’s not the software’s fault… if the data is crooked… I can almost only enter the times manually, i.e. before VPS-VHS recorder times. Even more old-fashioned, really manual. Which is unfortunately the case…
No matter which provider the TV signals come from, the 10 or 20 second delay per provider wouldn’t hurt… in live mode…
That’s life, says the Frenchman
@hed
Normally I use KODI as a client to my tvheadend server,
Generally I have 10 minutes follow-up time, one minute lead time
But if they’re so crooked, like 30 minutes off…
Then I have to go to the server with the WEB interface and place a manual order.
All because the EPG data failed.
Unfortunately….
Unfortunately, I can’t use the EPG “Running State” on any channel (all TV channels) because the two three minutes are not broadcast correctly. So I only have a follow-up time of 10 minutes, everything above that is wrong.
If I had 10 minutes of follow-up time and EPG “Running State”, the wrong EPG signal would still stop the film from recording too early, despite 10 minutes of monitored time in the follow-up.
So I can only activate the follow-up time. This is all bad.
It’s not Swisscom, UPC or anything like that that’s to blame, it’s the broadcasters themselves…
lg
Christopher
@Stiejauseu10 wrote:
From December 11th to 12th, 2022 Papillon Film on SRF1 Starts at 12:55 a.m., effective start at 1:20 a.m. (i.e. on December 12th, 2022).
Sunrise even has a separate section in the forum dedicated to the EPG:
https://community.sunrise.ch/t/EPG
Films are often shown on who knows how many TV programs. Therefore, I allow myself to ignore some TV programs because at some point the film will be shown on a different TV program.
I also check sports and other live broadcasts to avoid surprises:
This means that my TV program has a complete break during and after:
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| | — Sun, Dec 11 · 8:05-11:15 p.m. · SRF 1Sports Awards | |
| Sun, Dec 11 · 8:05-11:15 p.m. · SRF 1Sports Awards |
There were other opportunities to record the film here:
11/09/2022 00:10 - 02:35 HR
October 17, 2022 11:15 p.m. - 1:40 a.m. NDR
October 17, 2022 00:50 - 03:15 SWR
Aug 19, 2022 10:50 p.m. - 1:15 a.m. BR
Aug 5, 2022 10:34 p.m. - 12:58 a.m. 3sat
And it will be the case again next year.
Glotzologist
Actually, you’re a bit off-topic… what does this have to do with precise recording time? Are you standing in front of exactly the same Garden of Hague as me as the person taking the first version?
What can I do if tvbrowser, tv.search.ch, zattoo, my tvheadend, all get the wrong data?
You’re at exactly the same point as you were at the beginning…
@Stiejauseu10 wrote:
actually you’re a bit off-topic… what does this have to do with precise recording time? Are you standing in front of exactly the same Garden of Hague as me as the person taking the first version?
What can I do if tvbrowser, tv.search.ch, zattoo, my tvheadend, all get the wrong data?
You’re at exactly the same point as at the beginning…
Over time I know where to expect program changes.
It’s annoying when I find garbage instead of the desired shipment.
The VPS to analog TV era was a blessing ;-).
You’ve noticed what the successor system is like.
There are comparatively few program changes or postponements on the third ARD broadcasters.
Even if it’s not completely ruled out.
Glotzologist
11 days later
At Sport1+ the Belgian League is still missing from the program data. Instead of the live game, Gilette World Sport is shown again
For example at Zattoo it is displayed correctly!
Blue TV
Zattoo
@RomanE Please take a look