@Prefroke14

I don’t have UDM myself, so @kaetho would certainly be much more competent for specific UDM Pro tips.

What’s still on my mind about the procedure:

If it is really your first time dealing with a Swisscom Anschluss and perhaps also your first time with a UDM Pro, it might be much easier to gain experience in stages.

I could imagine three stages approximately 1 week apart:

- Stage 1: Operation as Swisscom-Only with the Internet box

- Stage 2: Operating your own cascaded network with the UDM Pro behind the Internet box as an access router

- Stage 3: Removing the Internet box and direct access via the SFP of the UDM Pro

A procedure in smaller steps would have the advantage that unexpected problems, which will always arise with every new project, can be assigned much more easily to individual components/topics and therefore solved more easily.

@Werner thank you for the great idea. I’ve gotten through steps one and two so far. I’ve been running the UDM with the Internet Box on the back here for 3 months. Before that only the IB for 1 week. In Germany I have already operated the UDM directly on the Telekom fiber network 🙂. I’m really not a professional, but I was able to gain a little bit of experience. In contrast to Swisscom, Telekom was very helpful at the time and helped me a lot with the settings. @kaetho could you please tell me here? Help?

@Prefroke14

I connected my UDMpro after stage 2 of @Werner. On the one hand, I don’t have a Fiber-Anschluss, “only” g.fast (I need a modem in front of the UDMpro anyway) and on the other hand, the UDMpro is not really (easily) suitable as a router if you operate Swisscom TV over the Unifi network wants.

My UDMpro is in the DMZ behind the IB3, DDNS is updated on the IB3, so I can easily access my Unifi network from outside. For Swisscom TV, I “break” a breach with a VLAN through the Unifi network, so the three TV boxes continue to receive their IP from the IB3, even though they are physically connected to the UDM network and function accordingly, as if they were connected directly to the IB3 would hang (it’s a bit tricky with the VLAN and port configuration, but everything can be set directly on the UDMpro UI without any deeper intervention in the system).

This way I can take advantage of both worlds. IPTV, super DSL connection and landline telephony from the IB3 and the extended configuration options such as different networks (managed, productive, IoT, guest lan, WLAN) and the better overview of what is “going on” in your own network from the UDMpro. In addition, for example, PoE directly from the switches for the APs and cameras.

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@kaetho wrote:

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So I can take advantage of both worlds. IPTV, super DSL connection and landline telephony from the IB3 and the extended configuration options such as different networks (managed, productive, IoT, guest lan, WLAN) and the better overview of what is “going on” in your own network from the UDMpro. In addition, for example, PoE directly from the switches for the APs and cameras.

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Wow! Thank you for this profound presentation. The landline calls come from the IB3. Do you use it to access DECT (multiple) base stations? Or to put it another way, how could I implement my Fritz!Box telephone exchange (individual addressing in the pubescent rooms 🧌) from an FB “base station” on the ground floor? 🤔

@andiroid

I have two DECT handsets (one of them a Gigaset CL660HX) and a DECT repeater (Gigaset Repeater HX). The two analogue connections are also used; a wall telephone 50 is attached to each. The DECT base is the IB3.

How can you solve this with FB? Depends on what else is there. Does the FB make the router, or do you have an IB as a router? There are different approaches, but I can’t replicate any of them myself. “FritzBox behind IB3 as a client” would probably be the one I would try first. But actually, I have no idea, I’ve never dealt with the Fritz boxes and their telephony.

But FritzPhones are actually DECT phones? You could also tie it directly to the IB3?

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@kaetho wrote:

I have two DECT handsets (one of them a Gigaset CL660HX) and a DECT repeater (Gigaset Repeater HX). The two analogue connections are also used; a wall telephone 50 is attached to each. The DECT base is the IB3.

Cool. Thanks for the additions. 🙂

How can you solve this with the FB? […] But actually, I have no idea, I’ve never dealt with the Fritz boxes and their telephony.

No, the problem is solved. I just wanted to know whether you have implemented any decentralized DECT base stations with telephone exchanges and individually addressed handsets. But I hear that the centrally placed IB takes over in this part. 👍

FritzPhones are actually DECT phones? You could also tie it directly to the IB3?

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Yes. Theoretically yes, but I would need a DECT repeater to get into all rooms. I have a mesh and can also call the ground floor/upper floor ‘individually addressed’ from the workshop via two DECT bases. But that’s hijacking the thread now. 😇 So back to the topic.

I was just imagining how my landline topology (2 bases, 7 mixed devices, individually addressable) would have been mapped with a Dream Machine Pro and I’m still missing a practical approach. 😉

Hello @andiroid thank you for your post. We’re excited to see what answer helped you find the solution. Please mark the appropriate answer. Thank you very much, kind regards, MirkoP

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@Prefroke14 wrote:

Thank you for the many helpful tips here. Swisscom is really very reserved when it comes to the whole topic of third-party routers. I set everything up as mentioned above and have a P2P 1gb connection and the blue module. I receive a message that I now have to enter the 10-digit activation code and call Swisscom and request it.

I would have suspected that the SFP modules were not compatible. But when you get to the activation page, you probably only have a problem with the activation or with the configuration of the connection. I’m surprised if you can still manage this step… 😉

-Andiroid

👽

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@MirkoP wrote:

Hello @andiroid thank you for your post. We’re excited to see what answer helped you find the solution. Please mark the appropriate answer. Thank you very much, kind regards, MirkoP

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Thanks @MirkoP, here’s another coffee to wake you up. ☕😉

@Mike0000000000 The hint went to you, but you should have already noticed…

🙋‍♂️

@kaetho top thanks for the description. This is how I currently operate my UDM. So IB3 at the back and then UDM. I currently don’t have and won’t get a TV box from Swisscom in the future and I don’t use a landline either, just everything via my cell phone. Therefore, the IB3 is actually just unnecessary ballast in my network that I would like to get rid of 😅 It is clear that the UDM can do this technically, it also worked in Germany and I know someone here who does it that way with Init7. I’m not entirely sure whether Swisscom provides P2MP or P2P access here. They didn’t want to give any information on the phone. That could explain why my UDM doesn’t work directly on the fiber

Prefroke14

what do your ping values ​​currently look like? Mine like this:

1,1,4

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@Prefroke14 wrote:

@andiroid @kaetho @Werner I actually did it. I played around with the DNS settings a bit and now it works. By cutting out the IB3 I now have even better ping 😅

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Well done! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Thanks for the feedback.

Would you like to add a screenshot of your configuration or have it with the values ​​@Lori-77’s [Post](https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Router-Hardware/Dream-Machine-Pro/m-p/ 745698#M42998) worked? Then you can mark your post as a solution without feeling guilty. 😉

So, to the solution: The DNS settings are like in the screenshot that I posted a few posts ago. However, regardless of whether you have active DNS settings or not, you can never fully complete the registration process. The trick was to first go to the government site without the DNS settings and then activate the DNS settings and complete the process. Don’t ask me why 🤷‍♂️😅 I’ve tried it several times… that’s just how it works for me. As I see here in the forum, there are a lot of posts on the subject of connecting UDM directly to the Swisscom Fiber and the ones I have seen so far have been unsuccessful. I would be interested to know if this “trick” also works for the others 🙂