@Justdoit wrote:
The setting is actually automatically adjusted by Apple’s tvOS based on the country setting, i.e. Europe 50Hz, USA 60Hz.
Not quite. Apple’s tvOS does not do this automatically, but instead suggests switching from 60 to 50 Hz later due to the country setting. If you then reject that, it stays at 60 Hz. That’s what happened to me.
That’s what makes it so tedious for us aficionados because we always have to switch to 60 Hz with these app providers if we don’t want to have an epileptic seizure… 😉 So it’s not a fault with the blue TV app. But from app providers like NHL.tv. After all, Netflix and Disney+ have it under control. 🙂
@Stephan_76 wrote:
@maecke wrote:
Dear @ThomasS
Maybe another bug, which at least occurs for me, to forward: If I reselect content in “Recordings” that I haven’t finished watching before, the additional button “Continue watching” correctly appears. Unfortunately, when you click on it, the recording starts again from the beginning.
Unless that only happens to me. 😉
Exciting. For me, the recording doesn’t start from the beginning, but it seems to jump back exactly 13 minutes.
You can easily understand this with a football game, where the time is displayed. For example this afternoon with Basel - Sion. I paused the recording at 45:00 and went back to the overview. After I chose to continue watching, it continued at 32:00.
I checked this for additional content and every time I clicked “Continue watching” it jumps back 13 minutes. Only a film always starts at the beginning. Really strange and probably to be checked by the SC developers…
@Stephan_76 wrote:
@maecke wrote:
When I select a recording in the search function, the play button is missing. But if I go to the recording list and select the same recording, the play button appears.
And what about you?@ThomasS can you pass on the error? If you search for a single recording using the magnifying glass on the app’s home page, no View button appears.
Has been forwarded, thanks for the feedback.
@maecke wrote:
@Stephan_76 wrote:
@maecke wrote:
If I reselect content in “Recordings” that I haven’t finished watching before, the additional “Continue watching” button correctly appears. Unfortunately, when you click on it, the recording starts again from the beginning.
Exciting. For me, the recording doesn’t start from the beginning, but it seems to jump back exactly 13 minutes.
You can easily understand this with a football game, where the time is displayed. For example this afternoon with Basel - Sion. I paused the recording at 45:00 and went back to the overview. After I chose to continue watching, it continued at 32:00.
I checked this for additional content and every time I clicked on “Continue watching” it jumps back 13 minutes. Only a film always starts at the beginning. Really strange and probably to be checked by the SC developers…
I’m happy to forward it to you as well, but can you tell me about the film? Including when and where recorded.
Liebe Grüsse / Salut et à bientôt / Ciao e a presto / Cheers, see you soon!
ThomasS
@ThomasS Another wish to forward to the developers:
If you watch live TV and later turn the device off, playback will start again at the time you turned it off instead of starting live TV again on the same channel.
Thank you
Hi Swisscom,
I’m glad that BlueTV finally works on AppleTV, but I still have a few comments:
- Can’t you offer TV provider integration like Salt and Sunrise? So that content can also be seen as TV content?
-Despite the latest Apple TV, the picture quality of the channels is significantly worse on a brand new 4K TV than via Swisscom
Box. Is this intentional or is it being worked on?
-There should be an easy way to get to the big guide, perhaps using the back button on the remote control from Live TV? The swipe up mini guide is a pain to zap…
thanks and greetings
@andybrunner wrote:
If you watch live TV and later switch off the device, playback will start again when you switched it off instead of starting live TV again on the same channel.
Thanks for the input, I’ll be happy to pass it on.
@NoIdea2021 wrote:
- Can’t you offer TV provider integration like Salt and Sunrise? So that content can also be seen as TV content?
- Despite the latest Apple TV, the picture quality of the channels is significantly worse on a brand new 4K TV than via Swisscom Box. Is this intentional or is it being worked on?
- There should be an easy way to get to the big guide, perhaps using the back button on the remote control from the live TV? The swipe up mini guide is a pain to zap…
Thank you also for the input, which I was happy to pass on. Regarding image quality, all I can currently say is that it of course depends on the connection, but in principle we are always working on such issues. Nevertheless, the best experience is not only in terms of image quality with the TV-Box from blue TV.
Liebe Grüsse / Salut et à bientôt / Ciao e a presto / Cheers, see you soon!
ThomasS
Hi Thomas,
many thanks for your response!
Of course I understand that the image quality depends on the connection. I have your 10Gbit/s package and my AppleTV is connected directly to the Internet Box via cable (1Gbit). So I expect it to work well here. If I compare it, for example, with the quality of Zattoo or 1080p content from Netflix, the picture here is massively worse. Using a points system I would say it’s 9/10 on the Swisscom TV Box and 5/10 on the AppleTV in terms of quality. A little worse is a good thing, but it’s quite noticeable as it is.
I also noticed that the EPG apparently isn’t cached in the app, that’s something you could add. When I zap through the guide like this, it even loses the channel logos and has to load them again.
Thank you for actively following this and listening to our feedback 🙂
Kind regards
I guess I didn’t check it as carefully as you did. But with the best will in the world, I hardly notice any difference between Swisscom Box and Apple TV Box with blue TV.
In my opinion, this cannot be compared with Netflix & Co., as the content of the TV stations is broadcast in a lower resolution anyway. SRF HD, for example, broadcasts in 720p/50, but many streaming providers broadcast their HD content in 1080p, sometimes with (supposedly not noticeable) variable bit rates, but still in higher resolution.
In my opinion, a comparison should only be made between blue TV apps and the set-top boxes from Swisscom. And just: I don’t see any noticeable difference here on HD. Certainly not one that would allow a rating of 5/10 to 9/10.
Thanks for your feedback, but I think I’ve already tried it out quite extensively.
I have both connected to my TV, Swisscom Box UHD and Apple TV 4K HDR. For example, if I look at RTL2 HD, the logo on the signal from the Apple TV is already quite pixelated compared to the image from the Swisscom Box. The whole image also becomes more “artifact-ridden”, as if adaptive bit rate is on and only uses a small part of the possible bandwidth, compared to Swisscom Box perhaps. how an H264 CAVLC runs at 3000kpbs on the Apple TV and 6000kbps on the Swisscom Box. Maybe Swisscom is using a completely different codec here compared to the Swisscom Box?
In comparison, I don’t have this problem with the Zattoo TV app on the same box, for example.
It would just be interesting to know whether there is a technical limitation on the quality on the part of Swisscom.
Or it’s the upscaling, maybe the Swisscom Box is significantly better than the AppleTV. But I can’t actually imagine it?
I would also be happy to take a photo of it, you should be able to see it.
A photo of the pixelated station logo would probably help. Then I can at least compare it with my TV.
In my opinion, ATV 4K has a very strong upscaling. That probably can’t be the reason if other apps bring sufficiently high-resolution images.
Resolution in ATV is on 4K SDR or HDR I assume? As long as you have a 4K TV. “Adapt to content” are both on? The latter shouldn’t be the cause of the problem.
I only see minimal differences. Here the SRF logo (from SRF News at the top left) zoomed in twice to the maximum. Above via Swisscom Box, below via Apple TV Box (not 4K) on an HD TV.
The same picture settings on the TV were used for both HD inputs.
I can hardly see any significantly different motion blur/artifacts with the naked eye.
The SC technicians could disclose the codecs/bit rates used.
So, I tested this again today under more optimized conditions. This means mounting the digital camera on the tripod, setting the focus to manual and triggering the camera using the remote control. So that exactly the same conditions apply to both recordings. And I think you can see a clear difference:
Swisscom Box
AppleTV
Via Swisscom it is simply sharper and the colors are richer. Actually, I should see if I can adjust something, but I find the colors and quality of Apple TV (Disney+ or Apple films) absolutely fine. And a colleague who is a radio TV technician set up the TV for me.
Great comparison and you can clearly see the difference.
Probably different resolutions and bitrates.
If you have the boxes on LAN cables, you can check the bit rates on the LAN diagnostics of the Internet box.
As far as I remember, an HD broadcast on a Swisscom TV Box usually runs at around 7 Mbit/sec.
I assume the stream for the Apple TV box is supplied by Swisscom with significantly less.
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