The advantage you describe of course sounds very nice - but as you say, it also sounds like a thing of the future. I assume that the infrastructure and everything connected to it would probably have to be designed for this on the part of the server and the manufacturer.

That’s why (from what I’ve read) gaming is primarily about avoiding the disadvantages of IPv4, for example the problems with the NAT type in games with numerous other online players.

As I said, I’m at best an advanced beginner when it comes to technical issues. But I’ve been earning a little extra money from gaming for some time now, and the discussion of IPv4 vs IPv6 is becoming an increasingly important topic in competitive gaming.

10ms improvement? I’ve put in more effort for less ms 🙂 You’re happy to take that with you, especially when you’ve reached a point where there’s not much you can get out of it in this regard.

Siesemio68

It doesn’t always have to be init7 either.

Here’s another example from green.ch

Native IPv6 is also available here. In this case you get a /56 prefix. The majority of these are also on the wholesale network. So everywhere there is Swisscom…

Everyone is with the provider of their choice.

I was looking at Init when you mentioned it to me.

The thing is, Swisscom offers me the Internet Booster for my location, which I already use successfully (only partially, in case any official is reading this ^^). Since I pay more for the Internet in my location than my location allows and, thanks to the Internet Booster, I have actually sometimes exceeded what was actually possible, this seems to me to be a good compromise.

What’s more, I’m otherwise happy with the service and my TV/cell phone also runs via Swisscom… But thanks anyway for researching.

I sympathize with you 😉

If the network expansion has been so messed up at all levels that you need a booster, you have come to the right place with Swisscom.

Plague swapped for cholera.

But the vast majority of customers have alternatives to choose from. It always depends on whether you are looking for an Internet service provider that values ​​this service. Or you want a provider that offers everything and just doesn’t have the capacity in certain areas or doesn’t see the benefit in it.

Everyone is with the provider of their choice.

@Tux0ne

Is your screenshot about a DHCP or PPPoE Anschluss?

I’m also with Green and was interested in ipv6. My request to Green Support took me to a 6RD tunnel. This is despite the fact that it is repeatedly stated that it is natively supported and is the standard. It’s a problem with the settings on the FritzBox; with active native settings there is no response from the DHCPv6 server (SOL).

What settings were used on this Anschluss?

I believe this Anschluss is PPPoE. I currently don’t have access to it. However, in week 1 or 2 we will put two green connections into operation again for building tech LANs. I can look there.

I get an IPv6 prefix: 2a01:2ac::/64 over 6RD.

I’m curious about the Green installations and their v6 settings.

Short update, IPv6 PD seems to come with the v12 software for IB3 at the earliest (beta in summer, final in autumn). If it’s actually there… I’ve been waiting forever for it.

@hohlst I could be wrong, but PD only makes sense if IPv6 is natively available. The IBs have been able to do this for a long time, but the network wasn’t finished yet. I don’t know when that will happen. There were still many small and larger things that had to be adapted and developed.

If I remember correctly, PD is also developed in the IB software, but not activated because it doesn’t make any sense.

@5018 I don’t know that excludes 6RD PD, because I think today the customer already has 16/64 networks, one of which is for guest WLAN, the second for the LAN and the rest is unused. But I haven’t looked into the technical details yet. So I could be wrong too.

Apparently Wireline Native IPv6 is also on the way this year - at least the Huawei BNGs are currently being prepared for it. Let’s be surprised if it actually happens, it’s about time.

Thanks to DualStack and IB3 firmware 12.x, IPv6 PD finally runs in conjunction with my UDM Pro. Now it definitely can’t take forever until the new firmware is rolled out to everyone.

Cool. You noticed it.

We SU have to keep our mouths shut “until then” and some of the first ones can then…

But absolutely correct…

IPv6 PD now works correctly with opnsense. Unfortunately, the IPv6 address is still dynamic (probably because it is still IPv6 RD?) and therefore it doesn’t really make sense to use, at least for me.

How should you do FW rules, for example, if the addresses in the LAN are suddenly dynamic? Or how should I statically address a Synology with IPv6 if the address then changes again?

Or does anyone know a solution to this?

I also have the prefix delegation working.

For me it’s a downstream Asus Merlin network.

Works without any problems, but you are of course right, with the dynamic prefix the conceptual architectural advantages of IPv6 can only be used to a very limited extent.

I haven’t yet come up with any “dynamic” options for real E2E communication and FW rules.

However, I’m not sure whether a static prefix (which Swisscom currently doesn’t offer for private customers) would be compatible with my privacy requirements.

No it is not 6rd but native IPv6 with dynamic prefix.
pfSense can also trade rules with dynamic prefix. Has opnsense not copied this yet? 😅

Well… I’ll clarify my statement. I can map rules like “LAN Network” with IPv6, which is then dynamically adjusted.

Only… if I reboot the Internet box, for example, I get a new IPv6 prefix… but unfortunately opnsense doesn’t get it automatically. So that doesn’t help. The IPv6 link is then simply dead until opnsense renews it.

In addition: How can I then sensibly assign a static IPv6 to a device in the LAN?

From my point of view, it’s not really usable. This is only suitable for a DHCP client that communicates with the Internet.

Privacy is then a completely different topic.

@scream88

IPv6 is in the “curriculum vitae” of the Swisscom router or The Swisscom network for private customers is still a very young technology, i.e. the features are certainly not yet fully exploited. In addition, the technical possibilities of IB generally appeal to the 98% of “non-technical” customers and not the 2% of freaks. And for these 98% of customers, what the IB offers in terms of IPv6 is sufficient. Customers are already overwhelmed with the few IPv6 options.

Yes, if the prefix changes that is a problem. But that shouldn’t happen so often. Maybe you’ll come up with the idea of ​​adding some kind of check @scream88

For static allocation you can do such a lease using DHCPv6. This also works with dynamic prefixes.

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@scream88

IPv6 is in the “curriculum vitae” of the Swisscom router or The Swisscom network for private customers is still a very young technology, i.e. the features are certainly not yet fully exploited. In addition, the technical possibilities of IB generally appeal to the 98% of “non-technical” customers and not the 2% of freaks. And for these 98% of customers, what the IB offers in terms of IPv6 is sufficient. Customers are already overwhelmed with the few IPv6 options.

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I don’t see it that way at all.

Swisscom has been implementing IPv6 on its RES CPE since at least 2012. Whether it’s with 6rd or natively with a dynamic prefix doesn’t matter at all. On the contrary, these are exactly the same topics that have not been addressed so far. So you missed it all.

Incidentally, IPv6 is not any more complicated, it simply has different approaches. Many issues are actually much easier to solve.

But yes, these issues were never addressed in the LAN of the Swisscom RES gateways. This has nothing to do with customer interest. 99% of all IB features are irrelevant to most people. It would have been all the more important to address an essential online topic.