Does Swisscom (or any other company: health insurance company, apartment landlord, Arbeitgeber etc.) also do this for other customers (subscription): changing the services in the middle of the contract without the possibility of cancellation?

Are they even allowed to do that? Or do you have to read the small print at Swisscom before you sign? Very trustworthy.

It would be best if I asked the price monitor.

Everyone liked Smart, except that the data was not billed in KB increments with a maximum of 2 Fr./day. Analogue system like making calls and texting.
The speed didn’t matter. There are data packages for that.

At home, I unpacked the cell phone recommended to me for my needs by the Swisscom employee, inserted the included SIM card and started the cell phone. 2 Swiss francs had already been deducted from the balance before I could switch off data packages.

I have never used the cell phone network for data in Switzerland. I don’t support this rip-off.

My son bought a prepaid card from “tre” in Italy last summer: 1GB/day for €1, 7GB/week for €5, 30GB/month for €20 with 4G. In Switzerland he can surf unlimitedly for €2/week on 3G.

I think I should go on vacation to Italy again.
Swiss cheese is also cheaper abroad.

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@doom2 wrote:
@Googlook: why shouldn’t they… that would reduce the additional income 😉 And… 2mbit… that would put us in binge on territory (see T-Mobile USA).. that gives max 480p. With the exception of low-end cell phones, devices today usually have at least 720p, and it goes up to 1440p. And you can also put such a card in a tablet (the same subscription is also sold as pure data prepaid)… you’re guaranteed to see it.


I think it is understandable and understandable that high-resolution video streaming is not possible with this offer. And every current cell phone can support VP9 and h.265, with these codecs 720p at 2 MBit/s are possible without any problems. That should usually be enough on a cell phone.

Of course, I like 1440p videos on my device. But for these users, a (Swisscom) prepaid offer is probably the wrong one anyway.

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In my opinion, Swisscom cannot simply communicate such a one-sided contractual deterioration via SMS. I will probably request in writing that my current conditions be continued. Then Swisscom would have to terminate our relationship, probably in compliance with a reasonable Frist and in writing. The press release is an absolute joke, it should say: Swisscom is making prepaid massively more expensive.

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@Old-Highstreet wrote:

In my opinion, Swisscom cannot simply communicate such a one-sided contractual deterioration via SMS. I will probably request in writing that my current conditions be continued. Then Swisscom would have to terminate our relationship, probably in compliance with a reasonable Frist and in writing.


If you have a contract with a notice period of one month, for example, Swisscom must of course also comply with this Frist. But you don’t have that with prepaid!

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@Old-Highstreet wrote:

In my opinion, Swisscom cannot simply communicate such a one-sided contractual deterioration via SMS. I will probably request in writing that my current conditions be continued.


You can certainly try that and I’ll keep my fingers crossed that it works (for me too, this change means a clear increase in price), but basically by purchasing and using the Natel Easy offer you have accepted the contractual terms and conditions, where Swisscom, among other things writes:

“Swisscom is entitled to change or discontinue its prepaid services at any time without compensation.”
[https://www.swisscom.ch/content/dam/swisscom/de/res/residential-additional-pages/legal/general-conditions-mobile-prepaid-dienste.pdf](https://www.swisscom. ch/content/dam/swisscom/de/res/residential-additional-pages/legal/general-conditions-mobile-prepaid-dienste.pdf)

Since you are not tied to a contract term, you can switch to another provider at any time - but the credit with Swisscom will then expire without compensation (see terms and conditions). Personally, I will try my luck with Sunrise starting next month (Salt offers it for me unfortunately poor network coverage, although I would benefit even more from their prepaid offer).

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Just for the sake of completeness:


sonoro wrote Since you are not tied to a contract term, you can switch to another provider at any time - the credit with Swisscom will then expire without compensation (see terms and conditions).


Except when switching to M-Budget Prepaid, the credit can be ported.

But with M-Budget you have other disadvantages/advantages:

-You pay every minute, including the fourth, fifth, sixth, etc. - but every minute and not every minute.

-All countries in group 1-3 have the same tariff as Switzerland (28 cents / min)

-When you activate the “MyCountry” option, calls to landlines in Switzerland and many European countries only cost 3 cents per minute. The “MyCountry” option used to cost CHF 3 per month, but as a promotion it has been free “forever”.

So depending on your needs, one or the other prepaid may be more advantageous. Everyone has to check for themselves.

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….keep on rockin' 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

I’m a bit annoyed that the “upgrade” (which isn’t an upgrade for me) happens automatically. I don’t surf at all, I just make phone calls. Now it’s not like I end up on someone’s Combox several times every day, but it was practical that it only cost a few cents each time instead of 29 cents.

I only sometimes send more than 13 text messages per day, but here too: devaluation instead of appreciation. Really a shame. Then please sell it as a price adjustment, not as a one-sided “upgrade” that not all customers benefit from.

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@POGO 1104 wrote:

Just for the sake of completeness:


sonoro wrote Since you are not tied to a contract term, you can switch to another provider at any time - the credit with Swisscom will then expire without compensation (see terms and conditions).


Except when switching to M-Budget Prepaid, the credit can be ported.


@That’s right, thanks for the clarification @POGO 1104 🙂

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If Swisscom unilaterally worsens the contract (a contract in the legal sense is also the case with prepaid with zero days’ notice and without a written agreement) and you do not accept this, then Swisscom must terminate the “contract” if they do not maintain the old, better conditions wants. And if Swisscom terminates the “contract”, at my discretion it may not retain any remaining credit. Unfortunately, a skilled lawyer costs a lot more than my cell phone usage, so I probably won’t take any action. But there is an ombudsman for these things, we would have to see what he thinks about it.

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Swisscom is not interested in prepaid at all. Not only with the new fees, but also with allowing MMS without a data connection. With old cell phones you could receive MMS without a paid data connection and send it at the MMS rate. Now she charges twice for an MMS, the sender pays for the MMS and as a prepaid customer I still have to pay to receive it. So Swisscom is not interested in prepaid, subscription is forced on you……

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Quite a mess

This price adjustment is a disgrace. So to hear a stupid announcement from a Combox, I have to pay 30 centimes from now on? It doesn’t work at all. So calling twice without success costs the same as a yoghurt? Irrational, dear Swisscom, and a case for the Ombudscom or the cash register collapse.

Why do I need fast internet as a prepaid user? The fact is that on a modern phone I can only send MMS with the data option –> I pay for it, and I pay another high Betrag to send the MMS. Also an impudence.

Luckily there are other providers, after 20 years it is now time for a change, with the landline connection as well, it will be switched to VOIP in a year anyway.

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Sorry, but this is not dear Swisscom and not a place to get rid of your frustration, but the “Customers helping customers” forum.

P.S.

Not only Swisscom but also all other providers will switch to All-IP in the next two years.

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@hed: are you making a fuss about UPC moderators now? You’re probably still allowed to express your opinion a bit - we’re still here in the Apple Fan Forum… This entire thread is a criticism of Swisscom. The same changes occur with other products and no customer can help to reverse an offer change.

@geovision: you cannot prevent the analogue Anschluss from being switched off. Swisscom was and is the only company that still offers analogue connections in Switzerland. Everyone else has either always done VoIP (e.g. all cable network operators) or has simply sold the Swisscom Anschluss with them.

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Sorry, then my post came across a bit wrong.

Since the forum is unfortunately not declared clearly enough as a “forum for customers helping customers”, it often happens that users think they can address Swisscom directly here.

I always try to counteract this misunderstanding. At geovision, the additional note with the “Motzecke” was just so obvious.

By the way, I have already pointed out to Swisscom or the moderators several times that they should either clearly and clearly declare the forum as a “customers helping customers forum” or establish the current forum as an official additional channel to Swisscom, in which Swisscom then also does the Obligation to reply to unanswered posts within 2 days.

As it stands now, it is neither fish nor bird. A “customers helping customers forum” where every now and then a moderator from SC appears more or less officially. It is obvious that some users are confused.

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It goes under the name “Advice and help from customers” - I think that’s a clear distinction from the official support channels. But a forum is always a bit of community and exchange. Swisscom employees also read along and give tips from time to time.
I don’t think simply letting out frustration will change the situation, but on the other hand it is quite possible that Swisscom will still respond to lively, sensible feedback, even if they have no obligation to do so. In this sense, I think posts that question things critically are definitely appropriate. It’s not that people here simply say “it sucks”, but it’s also about why the change means a step backwards for some people.

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Absolutely correct. It’s a tragedy what Swisscom offers here. She’s playing us prepaid customers for fools, which is what bothers me the most. As our northern neighbors say: “I can screw myself over”. It is apparently time to finally turn our backs on Swisscom.

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I find the Swisscom justification very amusing:

“Swisscom justifies the tariff change with an adjustment to the changed user behavior. Since there are fewer calls today and more mobile surfing, the offer with faster internet is being adapted to customer wishes, it says in a statement.”

Does anyone seriously know anyone who surfs the internet great with a prepay plan? And the increase in speed cannot be described as a real improvement.

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@WarmRed wrote:
Does anyone seriously know anyone who surfs the internet great with a prepay plan? And the increase in speed cannot be described as a real improvement.


I definitely don’t want to defend Swisscom’s actions here!

I have two prepaid SIMs which I only need for internet! I mainly use the daily tariff for CHF 2.00. The new offer is very helpful to me here. I can now surf at twice the speed, namely 2 instead of 1 MBit/s. I also have 4 GB of data available per month instead of 2 GB before the speed is throttled to 0.2 MBit/s.

My mother also uses prepaid mainly for the Internet. She makes calls over the Internet (much cheaper!) and uses her smartphone, just like we do today. She also benefits. I think there are a lot of customers, probably most of them, who will benefit from the new tariff. Only the unfortunate ones complain.

The double speed is definitely noticeable! Videos in particular are streamed in significantly higher quality. With VP9 (standard on YouTube) a 720p video can easily be streamed. According to the video, it is even just enough for a 1080p video. With 1 MBit/s only 480p is possible! Just as an example.

Things actually look different when making calls. Depending on the behavior, the new tariff is actually significantly more expensive. That’s definitely a shame, and really not fair to the customer (because the customer automatically uses the new offer).

Legally, Swisscom is on the safe side; the terms and conditions, which every customer has accepted, expressly state that Swisscom can change or discontinue the offer at any time without notice. There is no contract with a notice period. But Swisscom is also allowed to terminate a contract with the agreed notice period.

However, I am also of the opinion that Swisscom should have solved this in a more customer-friendly way.

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