Internet Box and Synology NAS

redcolt · Aug 25, 2015

Internet Box and Synology NAS

Hello everyone,

I bought a Synology NAS (DS215j). At home I have fiber optic Anschluss and therefore an Internet box. I haven’t had this for that long, as I moved in about 1.5 months ago and previously had a Centro Grande. Apparently all settings from the CG were transferred to the IB. So I didn’t have to set anything up for the internet. In addition, the Anschluss is in the fuse box in my apartment and from there I have to patch the sockets in the rooms.

Now I connected the NAS to a power outlet and the two hard drives were green and the status flashed orange. It was not found in the network via find.synology.com (don’t know by heart at the moment) or via the assistant. I turned off the firewall and antivirus on the Mac. If I attached the NAS directly to the notebook (MacBook Pro), it would be recognized, but that doesn’t help me. I want to configure this over the network. So I reset it and tried again. It just isn’t found. I’ve already tried installing the DSM via the local one and then assigning a fixed IP. After that I couldn’t connect to the IP either over the network or locally.

Do I have to set up something special on the Internet box so that the NAS can be recognized or found in the network? If I connect the notebook to the same cable and turn off the WiFi, I still have internet. So it can’t be due to the socket and cable…

Does anyone have an idea?

I’ve already read and tried various things here in the forum, but nothing has helped so far… I don’t know if it’s my Mac? Although then the network/LAN lamp on the NAS should at least light up?

POGO 1104 · Aug 25, 2015

Try taking the disk station to the fuse box and connecting it directly to the Internet box via LAN and then searching on the PC using the Synology Assistant. If it then works, it is due to the LAN distribution within the apartment.

You don’t have to set anything on the Internet box to operate a NAS

Greetings, POGO 1104

redcolt · Aug 25, 2015

Hello POGO 1104

I previously connected the NAS directly to the router and it actually works. If the NAS is directly connected to the router, the LAN lamp lights up. I haven’t tried installation etc. yet. But can it really be due to the socket? I get an internet signal, so why not for the NAS?

Is that something that should work? Because then I would report it to the administration.

Tux0ne · Aug 25, 2015

Apparently there is a problem with 4-wire Ethernet connections in this context. I think the IB’s NIC has a problem in this situation with disk stations. [https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Diskussionen-zu-Swisscom/Internetbox-Lan-Connection-zur-Diskstation/m-p/393659](https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Diskussionen-zu- Swisscom/Internetbox-Lan-Connection-to-Disk-Station/m-p/393659)

redcolt · Aug 25, 2015

well, great installation in that case.. 😞

If I interpret the other post correctly I would have to attach a switch. whether the Apple TimeCapsule also works? I don’t have anything else on hand.

But I guess I can’t complain about the can in this case?

Tux0ne · Aug 25, 2015

Nope, not really.

4-wire Ethernet is also standardized. Even if it is certainly not optimal, devices must be able to negotiate this.

This may not always be the case. But then the devices are faulty.

You may have a media distributor where you can install Giga submersible and therefore 8-wire with the right patch cable.

There are a wide variety of systems and designs. The administration or the electrician can certainly help.

Theoretically, it can also be the case that the line is actually faulty and the devices have a problem in this situation.

You can post a photo of the can in the room and one of the media distributor. There is actually no system that is used here that I don’t know. Maybe I can tell you more then.

redcolt · Aug 25, 2015

Thanks for the quick help. It seems to be working via the Apple TC, at least the LAN lamp is finally on 🙂 I won’t be able to actually try it until later, I’ll have to reconfigure it.

Now the NAS is in the living room next to the TC because we use it to do the WLAN because the Internet box in the closet doesn’t have enough of a signal. not far enough. The NAS should actually have been in the office. Let’s see if I can do the Anschluss there via the old Centro Grande. I’m not entirely satisfied, as there’s one more device connected to the network, but we’ll see.

Here are the photos from the installation. If I see it correctly, the Y patch cable has 8 contacts….

Somehow I can’t insert pictures. I quickly linked these to my HP:

[www.apfel repairen.ch/privat/IMG_2069.JPG](http://www.apfel repairen.ch/privat/IMG_2069.JPG)

[www.apfel repairen.ch/privat/IMG_2070.JPG](http://www.apfel repairen.ch/privat/IMG_2070.JPG)

[www.apfel repairen.ch/privat/IMG_2071.JPG](http://www.apfel repairen.ch/privat/IMG_2071.JPG)

Hope you can open the pictures.

Tux0ne · Aug 25, 2015

Yes, Zidatech.

You can replace the module in the room with a Gigamodule and then use a normal patch cable in the distributor on this socket. You can certainly order this through the administration.

Of course you no longer have a telephone socket in this room. But Giga Ethernet.

[http://www.zidatech.ch/de/shop/hausverkabelung-mcs/module-mcs/mcs-kommunikationsmodule/modul-lan-gigabit.html](http://www.zidatech.ch/de/shop/ hausverkabelung-mcs/module-mcs/mcs-kommunikationsmodule/modul-lan-gigabit.html)

hed · Aug 25, 2015

@Tux0ne

On this point:

“4-wire Ethernet is also standardized. Even if it is certainly not optimal, devices must be able to negotiate this. This may not always be the case. But then the devices are faulty.”

Unfortunately that is not true. So that the Giga-Bit-IF of PCs, switches, NAS, routers, etc. can correctly negotiate the speed and duplex mode in every case or every conceivable combination, an 8-wire cable is required. necessary.

A well-known case is the TV-Box (100 Mbps-IF) connected via 4-wire multimedia installation to the IB (Giga-IF). Speed and duplex mismatches can occur here, which can negatively affect the operation of TV 2.0.

You can get around the problem if you configure all IFs that are connected to 4-wire lines from auto/auto to 100 full. But this is not possible with the IB or most cheap switches.

Tux0ne · Aug 26, 2015

We’re glad that Swisscom doesn’t produce EVs.

Imagine you go to a charging station with a type 2 socket and want to charge your car there.

Unfortunately, this cannot negotiate what happens now.

If the inverter blows up in your face at this moment, it’s Swisscom.

But the charging station fuse will probably trip. The error is of course with the charging station. That would be really typical Swisscom.

redcolt · Aug 26, 2015

Hello TuxOne

Thanks again for the help.

I was now able to solve it with the TimeCapsule. This hangs on the socket and brings me my WiFi and then I attached the NAS there. Now everything works TipTop. So I was still able to use the socket like this.

Since I actually had the TC in the living room because of the WiFi, I guess I can’t avoid a router. The WiFi signal is now just about good in the living room and is getting worse in the other rooms. So I probably need an additional switch. Anyway, that’s how it works.

Problem solved 🙂

Greeting