Desired cell phone calls over the Internet

  • I receive desired calls over the Internet. The caller from Cyprus (Eqiity) tells me that he cannot dial a fixed number, but the call is free for him. And so it’s different every time. But unfortunately I can’t distinguish the caller from spam. Are there ways for the caller to identify themselves?

    Probably a question for Swisscom.

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    • No, unfortunately not.

      Why don’t you use internet telephony via various messenger services?

    Unfortunately I don’t know. That would definitely be the solution. I have to find out how you can do something like that from abroad. WhatsApp telephony? or are there better solutions?

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    @POGO 1104 wrote:


    @Lädi wrote:

    …..WhatsApp telephony?


    If both sides have WA, that would certainly be the preferred solution and free of charge….


    @POGO 1104: So WhatsApp in particular - where you register with your phone number - may not work with a changing number? Speculation, yes…

    @Lädi: The feature of not being able to get a fixed mobile number seems highly suspicious to me. What exactly does the provider (?) or even the user want to achieve with this!? So the only ones that come to mind are grandchild scammers and other potential criminals. Are you 100% sure whether you’re talking to the “good” side?

    Addendum: The short (!) research on “Eqiity” and “Cyprus” produced exactly 0 results. So excuse me for my skepticism, but this is all highly suspect in my opinion. Errors excepted.

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    @andiroid

    If the caller always changes his profile, which is caused by changing numbers.

    The constant change of the identity shown certainly has a special motive that not everyone can understand! This is nothing out of the ordinary. It’s just suspicious if a profile picture appears on multiple accounts with correspondingly different names and numbers.

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    @WalterB wrote:

    With the constant change of the identity shown, there is certainly a special motive that not everyone can understand! This is nothing out of the ordinary. It’s just suspicious if a profile picture appears on multiple accounts with correspondingly different names and numbers.


    Walter, I can’t understand your argument. You’re telling me that changing cell phone numbers is nothing out of the ordinary!? That you can rely on the profile pictures!? My experience shows exactly the opposite, but it is certainly not the measure of all things. 🤔

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    This is actually a problem. But I believe that the company is reputable. The only thing missing is an alternative that allows you to call around the world inexpensively without having to install a special app on your smartphone… as far as I know…

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    @Lädi wrote:

    This is actually a problem. But I believe that the company is reputable.


    Thanks @Lädi for the link to the “Equiity” website. I understand your motivation a little better now. Here is an excerpt from the Invezz website:

    Invezz is a team of financial experts passionate about helping people achieve financial freedom. Invezz was founded in 2012 in Sofia, Bulgaria, in John Alexander Adam’s bedroom.

    So before the discussion here sinks into the abyss, I’ll leave it up to the interested reader to decide whether this is a serious offer or not. I now understand quite well that a company like this uses constantly changing numbers for cell phone calls. At least as an initial suspicion: the whole thing stinks to high heaven. Feel free to correct me or confront me with reliable facts.

    The only thing missing is an alternative that allows you to call around the world inexpensively without having to install a special app on your smartphone…my level of knowledge…


    Internet as an infrastructure is not free. At my age, I just don’t understand the stingy-is-horny mentality anymore. Or maybe I don’t fully understand the financial situation of the person you’re talking to. Äxgüsi.

    And if someone would rather make their data available to a dubious CFD broker: they can. I would never do that. All of the alternatives mentioned above are better. But maybe I’m just being a bit of a hindrance to fun here. Challenge accepted!

    Back to your original question:

    Are there options for the caller to identify themselves?

    In that case: no.

    Or what do you think, where did the financial service provider get “its” number pad? I wouldn’t be surprised if random numbers are rolled and other people’s numbers are misused. If that’s the case, the thing would even have a name (Caller ID Spoofing) and can then be located exactly where you want to differentiate yourself from: spam.

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    Somewhat OT:

    If you would like to take a closer look at CFD & Co:

    [https://www.heise.de/ratgeber/Online-Trading-Die-mehrsten-fragen-vor-dem-ersten-Investment-in-ETFs-und-Co-9212611.html](https://www. heise.de/ratgeber/Online-Trading-The-important-Questions-vor-dem-ersten-Investment-in-ETFs-und-Co-9212611.html)

    [https://www.heise.de/background/Online-Trading-via-Smartphone-Das-muessen-Sie-wissen-6260467.html](https://www.heise.de/background/Online-Trading- via-Smartphone-You-must-know-6260467.html)

    I’ve heard from my circle of friends that you can get ripped off very quickly (the damage is a higher 5-digit Betrag), (even if everything looks very serious at the beginning, with word-of-mouth propaganda: “how great that is”) and later turns out to be a bottomless pit with zero payoff.

    My opinion: “Hands off”, or if money doesn’t matter -> at your own risk.

    This investment money could perhaps be spent in more useful ways.

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    Yes, and just a link on the Internet that doesn’t sound good at all or gives you anything to think about and there are still a few.

    [https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/private-equity-group-experiences-festgeld-betrug-und-0-auszahl-bei-privateequity-group-com-216364.html](https://www. anwalt.de/rechtstipps/private-equity-group-experiences-festgeld-betrug-und-0-auszahl-bei-privateequity-group-com-216364.html)

    And warning.

    https://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Veroeffentlichungen/DE/Ververbrauchermitigung/unerlaubte/2023/melde_2023_09_28_private_equity.ht ml

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    @Lädi wrote:

    This is actually a problem. But I believe that the company is reputable. The only thing missing is an alternative that allows you to call around the world inexpensively without having to install a special app on your smartphone… as far as I know…


    Please don’t be angry, but that is a typical statement of a certain naivety. Constantly changing numbers, probably fake anyway, can’t be clean. No reputable company works like that. No, never! In the end you have to know, but from what I’ve seen here I can only say… Hands off this stuff immediately!!! There is a high risk that you will lose a lot of money! For me, the story here isn’t clean; there’s something really wrong with it! It’s best to change your phone number straight away.

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    @Samsi wrote:

    Please don’t be angry, but that is a typical statement of a certain naivety.


    To remain a bit off-topic: I find it more respectful if the person who initiated the discussion can come to this conclusion within his or her own four walls. Despite your benevolent introduction, someone who is publicly given this attribute is unlikely to speak out publicly again. In his position, I always felt shut down and silenced. It’s actually a shame, I would have liked to hear a final assessment from @Lädi.

    @WalterB wrote:

    Yes and just a link on the internet that doesn’t sound good at all or gives you anything to think about and there are a few more.

    [https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/private-equity-group-experiences-festgeld-betrug-und-0-auszahl-…](https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/private -equity-group-experiences-fixed-term-deposit-fraud-and-0-payout-at-privateequity-group-com-216364.html)

    Just off the mark there too. The company is called “Inveez” and has nothing to do with Inveez’s equity offering. At least that’s how I understood it. Or do you see a connection to the “Private Equity Group” mentioned in the link?


    @Samsi wrote:

    There is a high risk that you will lose a lot of money! For me, the story here isn’t clean; there’s something really wrong with it! It’s best to change your phone number straight away.


    He never said he was doing it himself. So far it is at most his interlocutor based in Cyprus. And there too - as I understand the arguments - it’s all about free mobile telephony. And someone who doesn’t have the money for a decent subscription doesn’t have the money to gamble either? 😉

    @Lädi: The note about changing the phone number is important to understand: If the person you are talking to in Cyprus is using a dubious free mobile phone offer, then there is a strong assumption that the CFD brokers do not only make money with financial transactions wants, but also with the sale of “expensive” mobile phone numbers. If you get more spam calls in the future, @Samsi has definitely hit the mark and considering changing the number is a legitimate tip.

    I send you all ☀️ greetings on 🌧️ Easter Monday!

    -Andiroid

    👽

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    @andiroid wrote:


    @Samsi wrote:

    There is a high risk that you will lose a lot of money! For me, the story here isn’t clean; there’s something really wrong with it! It’s best to change your phone number straight away.


    He never said he was doing it himself. So far it is at most his interlocutor based in Cyprus. And there too - as I understand the arguments - it’s all about free mobile telephony. And someone who doesn’t have the money for a decent subscription doesn’t have the money to gamble either? 😉


    And what do we learn from this? In the end, it’s always about the money. If not today, then tomorrow! I would like to emphasize once again that everyone is responsible for their own actions and actions. Constantly changing numbers because supposedly there’s no other way…? Just hearing that sounds alarm bells in my head. Clean companies don’t work this way.

    But yes, you’re right, he just asked about the calls and whether there was a way to distinguish them from spam, because it’s always a different number. The answer has already been given here, which is: No. That should say everything here.

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    @andiroid wrote:


    @Samsi wrote:

    Please don’t be angry, but that is a typical statement of a certain naivety.


    To stay a bit off-topic: I find it more respectful if the person who triggered the discussion can come to this conclusion within his own four walls. Despite your benevolent introduction, someone who is publicly given this attribute is unlikely to speak out publicly again. In his position, I always felt shut down and silenced.


    I can’t quite follow you there. Shouldn’t we warn you about dubious companies and possible fake reviews on Trustpilot? If you want to take on such a risky business, it’s your own fault if the money is gone. But you have your opinion, others have a different one. Accept these too before you reprimand everyone here.

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    The company in question was already a topic here:

    https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Heimvernetzung-WLAN/werbung/td-p/792994

    Then we recommend using the Google test, or alternatively a search engine of least trust, with the following search terms:

    Name of the company and the word “fraud”.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Equiity%22+Fraud

    In each case *before* entering into a business relationship.

    Glotzologist

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