@Roger G

Back to the actual expansion topic, for the external locations of a pol. Community (which may have several ‘towns’ scattered around a certain perimeter). You mentioned in your post above that renovation projects could happen quickly… Well, when you talk about the ‘devil’, what a coincidence. In my case, I have now received a letter from the building administration in the municipality , and it refers to the renovation of the factory lines in my locality. Do you know anything about it? According to a request to the President of the Construction Administration, all stakeholders are informed in advance of construction projects. I now suspect that SC was not informed or was informed too quickly?! 😞

It would be ideal, after the opportunity was missed a year ago when renovating Schulhausstrasse, not to use the open “street holes” again to insert the empty pipes or fiber optic cables/feeders if necessary! That would be sub-optimal, even annoying, and questionable from an ecological point of view if the roads had to be torn up again at a later date. 😉

Cheerz

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@robbieB Ugh, the physical structure is way too far away from me.

Important to know: The municipalities and their constructive planning (line routing, position of the sockets, etc.) are assigned to the TU by Swisscom. They then have to plan the communities with their resources. This means that the TU must be informed about such projects. And yes, we are normally informed by the municipalities when it comes to planning such civil engineering projects.

And otherwise always applies:

Partner Customer Care Center: 0800 477 587 (free)

or https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/netz/connection/kontakt.html

If you put the information there, it goes to the right place.

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Roger G.
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access

Thank you very much @Roger G for the quick and friendly response with the reference to the contact point.

I have submitted my request and am looking forward to the answer.

N.B: I have attached a letter from the construction administration with the planning data for the construction work/renovation of the service lines 🙂

Cheerio,

Rob

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@Roger G Do you even receive an answer to the submitted request via Netzbau? 😕 Or is it all “behind the doors”;_) I haven’t gotten any feedback on it since then, it’s a shame whether something is happening or it’s not considered necessary because it’s not in the “scope”…. …. It would be nice to know whether it will be helpful and whether you will then obtain the appropriate “permits” from the municipality. 😉

cheerz

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@robbieB Hmm, I don’t know the process behind it. Ev. The request is clarified by the construction department and then submitted to the affected departments. According to my colleagues, we are very well informed by the communities about their existing buildings.

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Roger G.
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access

Understood. Then I’ll assume that the information has ‘found its way’ and the network construction stakeholders can take the appropriate steps. Thank you for the quick feedback 👍🫶

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Unfortunately no, this is a single location that will probably be opened up with glass as part of “day-to-day business” outside of the rollout plan.

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Roger G.
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access

@Roger G But if you have to pull the glass for 9 NE’s from Hittnauerstrasse PFA CO into the sewer system to the property, then you might as well pull another 500-600 Fs to Auslikon, or is it thinking too simply? Please don’t misunderstand me, I’m talking about the principle that the fiber optic cables have already been laid. It’s not about preparing the telephone exchange with additional ODF and connections in the respective racks for the future NE’s in a later roll-out. This effort is then part of the roll-out…

I think you can build it more efficiently so that you are then ‘construction ready’ for the roll-out. Then you hit two birds with one stone. Obviously I don’t have all the details, however, but that would sound logical to me as a network builder. Maybe too simple / superficially considered E2E. If I make any mistakes in my use case scenario with a new building, I’m happy to learn.

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@robbieB

The TU has the task of opening up a specific area by a certain point in time (or adding feeders). If the community is not planned by the end of 25 and a building is built beforehand, this will of course be developed before the rollout. But the resources are not enough to do the whole community. Either you plan to take them away from another location (then they have to be moved), or only this location will be built without the entire community. Until the planned drop, it would be right to pull the right fiber optic cable with enough fibers so that all NE from the drop onwards can be supplied later. But it’s up to the TU to plan so that it doesn’t have to do it again later.

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Roger G.
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access

@Roger G Great, thanks for your tips. Explanations on network construction. Notabene Auslikon is a district of the municipality of Pfäffikon ZH (pol. municipality). The municipality of Pfäffikon will be expanded with FTTH up to the border of Hochstrasse and Pfäffikerstrasse next year from March 2025, I believe this will happen at the same time as Hittnau according to the attached screening, the other half towards Auslikon / Wetzikon is unfortunately not in the perimeter. It’s also clear to me why, and it’s already been explained in x posts, something may be planned for 2027, since a lead time of 12-18 months has to be expected.

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Anyway, really very interesting for me, especially with regard to an area that has not yet been developed like Auslikon (which is still only built with a copper network across the board, with a few SC fiber optic lines under the main road to the only PUS and for companies to Wetzikon).

By the way, I learned from the CH network strategy (REF: [https://www.bakom.admin.ch/dam/bakom/de/documents/tc/szenarien\_einer\_national fiber optic expansion strategy in Switzerland.pdf.download.pdf/szenarien_einer_national fiber optic expansion strategy in Switzerland.p df]. “Network construction strategy CH”)) Federal study noted this very interesting paragraph:

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In this respect, it could be perfect for my town of Auslikon to plan a drop => x DP (Distribution Point(s))🙂. I suppose you could say “thumbs up PI”, per PUS i.e. network segment => one drop.

I have a certain ‘passion’ for this (network building) topic 🙂

LG,

Robby

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What is often forgotten: each house and each pipe to each house must be checked individually beforehand:

Is the existing pipe usable? Diameter? occupancy? Eligible to join? Additional work holes? Who does civil engineering (company, appointments…)? Building permits from the municipality, headquarters planning and expansion, etc…

Then at each house, manually “with appointment and clipboard”: are existing introductions usable? Where will the BEP be built? Which? How can the house installation, pipes/rising zone be tightened? Planned OTO placement?)…

The rollout for a community is a VERY different house number than an individual development. Out of interest, I follow the expansion of my community very closely with lots of conversations and insights and it’s really crazy how many gears are turning.

Therefore, everything is nicely staggered and everything goes according to plan. Trust the process 😉.

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Ich bin ein als Privatkunde getarnter Swisscom-Mitarbeiter im Bereich Service Continuity.

I am also following the network expansion out of interest.
According to Swisscom Checker and FTTH Map, the entire community including individual hamlets is being expanded with fiber optics. In most properties the BEP has already been installed; the OTO sockets are still missing.
What is interesting is a development with 7 apartment buildings of approximately the same size, which are connected via a shared underground car park. According to network information, every MFH BEP is installed in the basement, and there is a single HAK for copper.
What is interesting is that only house number 5 says that it will be expanded at the beginning of May 2025, for all the others it says that fiber optics is not possible because of the WEKO matter.
I’m excited to see what happens between now and next spring.

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Hello @HP

In my opinion, both MFHs did the right thing by ensuring that each MFH receives its own BEP.

If a fiber needs to be re-pulled, all you have to do is go to the basement.

And don’t go through the underground car park etc. wherever the cars are parked in the wrong place, don’t have to open fire barriers etc.

I just hope that the construction partner used enough large empty pipes into which the fibers were drawn.

I’ve already experienced that he had chosen the smallest diameter, practically no longer able to be tightened……

The other BEPs still need to be pulled up a bit before they can be built.

Greetings Lorenz

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