Fiber optic availability - map with details

Actually a great thing. But two more points:

1. Estimated availability may vary significantly. When I look out the window, I see a new building (not yet occupied). The estimated availability is August 18, 2023, but the two parts of the house were not effectively opened until November. So that’s at least 2.5 months late. In the settlement where my Eltern have their campsite it says October 2024, the Swisscom Checker says October 24 - January 25

2. According to a user on www.digi-tv.ch, only connections that Init-7 can use are listed.

The card is really great.

In terms of area, it is even more extensive than the pure Swisscom card, as it not only contains Swisscom and cooperation networks, but also third-party networks on which Init7 can also rent.

You can also see the information about the individual POPs and the FFTH connections that have already been installed at individual addresses (presumably on-demand connections and new buildings that were no longer connected to copper).

If you know a little about Init7’s product range, you can also deduce from the planning where Init7 wants to place additional POPs of its own in the control centers in the next 2 years, which then of course offers the possibility of 25 Gbit/sec per P2P customer will spread even more.

It looks like there will be a relatively quick impact from the P2MP ban, because all of these new P2P POPs would no longer have been technically possible if Swisscom had actually succeeded in “pushing” P2MP across its entire distribution networks. . 🙂

It is of course clear that there are still differences between planning and then actually carrying out the implementation, but for POP locations where several 1000 usage units come together, I actually expect that Init7 will get in there with its own equipment as quickly as possible This probably also has commercial advantages for them compared to offering their customers the pure resale product from Swisscom.

The card is good. Unfortunately, what I’m still missing here are all the locations where this information is in the checker:

This would make the full extent of the Comco disaster clear.

There is also currently no address search function. I have to navigate to the address manually.

yup, that’s what I miss the most too.

Sometimes it’s not that easy to find a certain address.

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@5018 wrote:

On the subject of FTTH:

[https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/fragwuerdige-intervention-competition commission-beim-expansion-of-the-glass-fiber-network-ld.1769608](https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/fragwuerdige-intervention-competition commission -during-the-expansion-of-the-fiber-optic-network-ld.1769608)

Topic exactly 🙂 If every authority thinks that it has to correct legislative decisions, then there is a problem with the authorities.

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Certainly an interesting article, but unfortunately behind the NZZ paywall..

Incidentally, there is not only the Telecommunications Act, in which Swisscom managed to convince the National Council during the last revision that the Federal Council’s proposal at the time to stipulate free end customer access in the fiber optic network directly in the FMG, analogous to the regulation in the copper network, is not at all necessary because everything will regulate itself best anyway, but there is also the Cartel Act, which is also a federal law and therefore has the same level of effect as the FMG.

The Comco does nothing other than carry out its mandate, which is also clearly formulated by law, to maintain fair competition and prevent the emergence of harmful monopolies.

The Comco certainly has much more knowledge of antitrust law than Swisscom, because Swisscom’s lawsuit against the Comco’s orders has already been dismissed in the Federal Court as being irrelevant and the Comco’s previous orders have all been fully protected and thus upheld.

The only exciting thing that remains in this previous “Swisscom FTTH disaster” regarding the attempt to monopolize end customer access again will probably be the question of whether there will also be an antitrust fine and, if so, how high it will be.

But since Swisscom has had to pay antitrust fines of over CHF 100 million in the past, this will probably have been “priced in” into the subscriptions for a long time.

Something similar to a “monopoly fine risk surcharge” in the internal price calculation 🙂

And because Swisscom’s last really big antitrust fine also affected the broadband Internet market, below is the “very Swisscom-friendly” text of Swisscom’s own official press release on the ADSL fine at the time:

[https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/news/2019/12/19-broadband-internet.html](https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/news/2019/12/ 19-broadband-internet.html)

@Werner

Paywall? I don’t have a NZZ subscription, but I was able to read the entire article.

You can think what you want about the story. Ultimately, everyone just wants to know when copper will finally be replaced by glass in their home. The technology behind it is of secondary importance, if at all.

Of course I say thank you because I can now assume that I will receive a “continuous fiber” from me to the headquarters. Small downer: when that will happen is now again in the stars…

@kaetho

I can read the article now, the link has probably been improved a bit -🙂

I tend to agree with Ruedi Noser, but there is little point in dwelling on the past now. The piles were driven in by ComCo. What is still missing is the conclusion of the process and perhaps a Christmas miracle in the form of a compromise or Interim solution. It cannot be the case that 600,000 connections have to wait for a conversion and are not allowed to be used for years. At the same time, Swisscom is happily expanding more villages and is leaving behind a P2MP shambles in Dagmersellen and surrounding communities, for example. I hope this mess will be corrected in 2024.

Maybe in the future we will all be happy to have our own line to the headquarters instead of having to share it with others.

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@cybi wrote:

Maybe in the future we will all be happy to have our own line to the headquarters instead of having to share it with others.

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Most certainly. Technically, P2P is the best way and is certainly more sustainable than PON. P2MP. Nevertheless: I and 100 thousands of other affected people don’t want to wait until the next day for a conversion. My Anschluss including OTO has been finished for 2 years and cannot be used. It will be rebuilt, but probably not for a few years.

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@5018 wrote:

I think that the “own” management is a marketing gimmick from F.K. And there are enough people who think they are experts and fall for it. No matter how much room for improvement P2MP offers, there will never be a relevant bottleneck.

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At the end of the day it’s about OSI Layer 2-4 respectively. Access to Layer 1. With P2MP, as a smaller player, you are dependent on Swisscom’s advance services for better or for worse. Only Salt can afford its own PON tree to the end customer for a lot of money. With P2P you have full flexibility and are not dependent on PON. You can do PON or AON. From a technical point of view, I agree with you: we have now reached 25 and 50 Gbit PON. Of course, developments keep pace.