@Monique

Yes, according to the Doro website, the 6820 has 4G and VoLTE and is therefore future-proof.

Okay, it’s been a few years now and maybe things have improved a lot in the meantime, but I had to set up a Doro big-button cell phone for my blind father-in-law and then I said to myself:

Once and never again!

The most illogical operating system I have ever struggled with when setting up a cell phone, despite experience going back to 1994 🙂

In addition, all of the technology was already out of date when it was sold and the price/performance ratio wasn’t right either.

Thank you all!

Thanks @r00t for the place in the manual on how to turn off the internet. On my previous cell phone it also said that if it didn’t work, you should contact your provider, and they then refused (and the cell phone was tied to Swisscom for 2 years).

Thanks also for the information about compatibility. When Swisscom switched off the 2G network, there was information that other Swiss providers were still using it, but I couldn’t decide to switch. Back then I didn’t have the problem with identification yet. I’ll be happy if I can still find a 3G device. Hopefully this identification problem will be solved in 2.5 years.

Mucho offers prepaid services, but you still have to pay fees on an ongoing basis. One-off 35.– activation + regular 2.–/month + the device is a bit much just to be able to see your own data in your login (the device could still justify itself because you can take photos with it). The Swisscom pre-paid basic tariff from @r00t would be better.

@Werner I don’t need a battery at home. I’ll probably manage the 30 seconds to copy an SMS code, or I’ll leave it online.

I still hope a little bit that something more will come from Swisscom.

Hi @Monique

I’ll be happy if I can still find a 3G device. Hopefully this identification problem will be solved in 2.5 years.

To do this, Swisscom would first have to acknowledge the problem, and I think things are currently too quiet from the official side for that. (Not just related to your case). I can also imagine that various services will follow suit. Then you’ll be happy if you already have a working cell phone.

Mucho offers prepaid services, but you still have to pay fees on an ongoing basis. One-off 35.– activation + regular 2.–/month + the device is a bit much just to be able to see your own data in your login (the device could still justify itself because you can take photos with it). The Swisscom pre-paid basic tariff from @r00t would be better.

There are various providers - just google it and compare 😉

I still hope a little bit that something more will come from Swisscom.

If nothing is there by Wednesday, I would call again if I were you and ask. If you want to skip the telephone robot at the beginning, use the “Call me” button [here](https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/hilfe/kontakt.html#meine-daten-und-vertrag/ login and passwords).

LG

r00t

Sorry, I hadn’t seen this post before I sent mine. I’m actually dreading setting up my phone now. That’s why I’ve already studied the instructions for use quite carefully, but of course without being able to actually try them out.

Of course it would be best if Swisscom offered me a solution.

I have the impression that Swisscom is always the first to introduce such things and thus puts pressure on others. That’s why I don’t want to support them unnecessarily. If it were just about data security, they could also accept a landline number for identification (I have an SMS-enabled phone). And making me an offer for CHF 80 per month, where you could have a prepaid for 20 centimes per year, which is 4,800 times cheaper, has absolutely nothing to do with data security.

So sleep twice more to see if anything else comes up.

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@Monique wrote:

…..you could also accept a landline number for identification (I have a SMS-enabled telephone).

SMS on the landline was stopped about 5 years ago…

This is only mentioned in passing…

@Monique

I have no idea where you got your information about Mucho Mobile, but in fact it is simply wrong.

The SIM and the new number would simply be sent to you free of charge and there is no requirement for a prepaid package or subscription and no additional fees.

But it doesn’t matter at all, because you can simply take any prepaid from any provider and certainly not a subscription at all. The important thing is that there are no regular costs, since you really only want to be able to receive SMS with it.

P.S.: By the way, you shouldn’t overestimate the quality of the cameras on the cheap cell phones, because if photography were important to you, you would have to go at least two leagues higher in price, because really usable cameras are only available on the cell phones from approx. >= 300 CHF

Mucho was unknown to me until today and I wouldn’t have any trust in this company. There is no imprint to be found on the entire website, which is also required in Switzerland today. It is also not written which Natel network the whole thing takes place over. The information about the best Swiss cell phone network is not enough for me. The Duomaxi is quite expensive for what it offers (39 CHF). Swisscom offers a lot more for me. 4 x Mucho = 156 CHF per month. With the Swisscom Mobile L I get significantly better services throughout Europe for my 4 devices (on one number) for a smaller Betrag (CHF79.90).

If I only needed a prepaid mobile phone, then M-Budget Prepaid would be my first choice! You know who is behind it (Migros and Swisscom).

I simply don’t understand “Monique’s” problem!

Kind regards

Gian

@gian mucho mobile use the Swisscom network see here:

[https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AB5stBiRWAqOGZ0whVpa6cumE8sMBBQlDA:1690228126400&q=Welches+Net z+hat+Mucho+Mobile%3F&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSwsC4jqiAAxV6hP0HHR0dBJIQzmd6BAhAEAY&biw=1600&bih=700&dpr=1] (https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AB5stBiRWAqOGZ0whVpa6cumE8sMBBQlDA:1690228126400&q=Welches+Net z+hat+Mucho+Mobile%3F&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSwsC4jqiAAxV6hP0HHR0dBJIQzmd6BAhAEAY&biw=1600&bih=700&dpr=1)

I don’t know why you’re railing against Mucho Mobile, to each their own.

live and let live.

Thanks!

I got it from here: https://muchomobile.ch/uploads/cgv/mucho_service_fees_de_0423.pdf

“__Monthly Prepaid Account Management Fee – Monthly fee deducted from the remaining balance in the event of non-use of a prepaid SIM for 60 consecutive days and no paid usage of at least CHF 2 in the last month. Non-use means, for example no outgoing calls or SMS, no data usage, no pack purchase, no top-up.”

and

“Dossier fee for opening a new account”

Did I misunderstand that?

Thanks also for the warning about the camera. I don’t have any quality expectations. It’s more of a consolation for having to spend money just for identification.

@Monique Why should Swisscom put pressure on other providers? This 2FA is for security reasons. Unfortunately, the internet is full of scammers, crooks, etc. So companies just have to continue to develop. This 2FA will come more and more anyway. This is also mandatory for many companies. As for the 2G network… 2G required a relatively large amount of capacity. How many customers used a 2G only device? You can almost count them on one hand. Only Sunrise kept the 2G network running for a relatively long time, but not anymore because it is simply no longer up to date. Yes, development doesn’t stop.

@Werner @Monique

https://ch.trustpilot.com/review/digitalrepublic.ch has a better rating than

mucho mobile https://ch.trustpilot.com/review/muchomobile.ch

https://www.handy-abovergleich.ch/mobilfunkprovider-schweiz/

gian

Still Too Much:

@Monique Whoppa, be careful:

The page you send shows any information about the web host from mucho.ch, which is not necessarily the company behind Mucho. The Terms and Conditions mention BeeOne Communications SA.

LG

r00t

@Monique Instead of Mucho Mobile you can also take M-Budget prepaid. Is also on the Swisscom network.

Just forget about the Mucho Mobile option I mentioned.

The really important part of the information was: Certainly a prepaid and not a subscription and no other ongoing costs.

Both the Swisscom network and the Sunrise network have good coverage for the vast majority of locations in Switzerland, so you rarely have to consider the question of which network a prepaid is on, unless you live in a really remote location.

I personally have absolutely nothing against Swisscom prepaids, of which I also have three.

From a purely administrative point of view, these have become a little complicated over time when opening new ones, which is why I am increasingly turning to alternative providers when opening new ones.

But simply as a conclusion:

The question of which prepaid is completely unimportant to the actual problem and primarily I would still rely on the very best solution, namely that Swisscom itself really “gets on its feet” and continues to offer a landline solution for customers even without an additional cell phone .

The fact that not every landline customer also has a cell phone has certainly not escaped Swisscom’s attention based on its own internal statistics, and I therefore see a certain obligation on Swisscom’s part to continue to provide its customers with access to their own data without their own additional cell phone Kundencenter to be granted.

Microsoft also offers F2A identification via landline or email.

Why shouldn’t that be possible for Swisscom?

If Swisscom continues to insist on SMS (which is not entirely certain) they would have to put together a special package with subscription/prepaid and Natel for F2A.

That would make sense.

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@user109 wrote:

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If Swisscom continues to insist on SMS (which is not so certain either) they would have to put together a special package with subscription/prepaid and Natel for F2A.

That would make sense.

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Another special solution “from Swisscom, for Swisscom”? 😉

This issue with 2FA is too important, your entire reputation depends on it. I don’t think we should allow ourselves to experiment any further.

Broadly accepted solutions are needed.

Sooner or later it will no longer work without 2FA.