Do you mean private customer to business customer or private subscription to business subscription?

You can also have a business subscription as a private customer

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@Damu

It’s not that easy to switch from business to private. A few months ago I had a user who had to make such a change due to his age due to the business being abandoned. The whole thing was partly done in writing.

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G.Fast has been running for a day.

Apparently needed a technician on site to change it.

Unfortunately, the Fritzbox still makes a lot of errors (according to the error counter).

Is there a need to retrofit, perhaps a shielded DSL connection cable?

Or the Swisscom connection box.

I have a plastic casing that was also broken during installation.

They are also available with a metal housing.

I also read somewhere that open cables (open wire ends) can slow down the G.Fast extetem.

I have the lab on it.

Unfortunately it is not possible to go back to normal firmware.

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Good time to say something about powerline devices. Almost all PLC adapters interfere with the copper cable. The more speed these things offer, the worse the problem is. In the new MyStrom PLC2000 and in our Internet boxes, we have implemented a system with Broadcom that allows the devices to talk to each other and thus prevent problems.

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Do all Powerline devices have to be MyStrom or is just the one on the Fritzbox sufficient?

Do the powerline interfere generally or only when you are connected to the router.

The technician probably measured it for me and throttled the DSL to 100Mbit.

Of course, for G.Fast this had to be changed back to the maximum.

Now the line is of course synchronizing higher again and that also causes problems with VDSL.

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For me, PowerLine is generally a no-go.

With Gigabit Ethernet you have a permanently high-performance, trouble-free, problem-free, error-free connection. The installation may be very time-consuming and expensive, but it is worth it.

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You can take whatever you want with a Fritzbox. It will be annoying because the Fritzbox cannot talk to the adapters.

Only the combination of the Internet box and PLC2000 from MyStrom helps.

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Power lines and telephone lines were not designed to transmit high frequencies, but that is exactly what they do with g.fast (currently probably up to 106MHz) and Powerline (2-68MHz according to Wikipedia). It is almost inevitable that they will interfere with each other, unless you shield the telephone cable well, for example.

When it comes to internet connection, you often have no choice and have to bite the bullet (glass would be ideal, TV cables are also ok, but you don’t have a free choice of provider), but with in-house cabling you can often lay network cables with limited effort. Another alternative is optical connections (these can also be laid together with power cables), but the technology is not very common in the consumer sector and is correspondingly expensive (Swisscom used to sell an “optical connection kit”, but the technology behind it is not suitable for long distances ).

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According to @RogerG from Swisscom, the powerline adapters do not directly interfere with the DSL copper line, but rather into the router via the power supply/power supply. At least that’s how I understood it…

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….keep on rockin'

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    POGO 1104

    Some users had this power strip (picture below) installed with a filter for the router, NAS and other devices for power supply. It is important that the D-LAN (powerline) is not plugged in there.

    I’ve had the APC power strips with filters and surge protection for a long time.

    N.B. Most people today have the WLAN-Box instead of the D-LAN.

    power strip.JPG

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    My Fritz.box is connected to a lightning protection box, which is connected to an APC battery pack.

    The powerline had to be connected to a normal socket and appears to be the problem.

    Mystrom Powerline with Fritzbox is not enough?

    Without powerline, the line is immediately TOP.

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    @dc.mueller

    You certainly seem to be a little keen to invest in your equipment.

    However, you would get a lot more bang for your buck with LAN cables.

    Regardless of whether it is telephone pipes, cable TV pipes or even power pipes, there is always a way to find a sustainable, super-performing and stable solution with Ethernet cables.

    Simply ask your trusted electrician to provide you with an offer.

    You’ll be surprised at what you can do for 200-400 CHF, even in old buildings, and then you’ll definitely be free of the hassle of tinkering with DLAN and WLAN bridges for the next few decades.

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    @POGO 1104 wrote:

    According to @RogerG from Swisscom, the powerline adapters do not directly interfere with the DSL copper line, but rather into the router via the power supply/power supply. At least that’s how I understood it…


    I do not think so. That would be a serious design flaw. A filter is necessary simply because of the switching power supply. Crosstalk between power and telephone lines can happen quickly at these frequencies.

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    Hello

    A new cable was pulled.

    Unfortunately, the electrician we trusted made a mistake 16 years ago and laid the pipes poorly.

    When trying to replace the telephone cable, a new cable had to be pulled through the TV cable pipe.

    Unfortunately, this electrician (minimalist) only ran pipes from A to B to C and never from A to B to C to A.

    If there was a way to run a cable from the living room to the basement, that would have been done.

    A LAN cable does not belong in a power line pipe.

    That’s why it’s still Powerline.

    For printer, safety strip and reserve NAS.

    But I’m not the only one who uses Powerline because of something like this.

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    @dc.mueller

    I have had good experiences with users who have replaced the D-LAN with the “new” WLAN-Box for the Internet-Box 2, where it was not possible to pull a LAN cable without a lot of effort.

    But you have a Fritzbox and this WLAN-Box doesn’t work.

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    @dc.mueller

    I also have network cables in the power pipes.

    According to the latest Swiss installation regulations, contrary to what most people think, this is not prohibited in private households.

    If you are worried about interference from the magnetic fields of the power cables on the Ethernet cables (which can probably very rarely be a problem in private households), you can also use expensive fiber optic cables with Ethernet adapters on both sides. They are then definitely immune to current magnetic fields.

    But as I said, the following normally applies: relatively cheap Cat. 5E Ethernet installation cable is pure and good with stable Gigabit LAN up to a distance of 100 meters.

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    @Werner

    Where does it say that it is permitted to install low-voltage lines in high-voltage lines without partitions; when I was still carrying out installations, it was forbidden by the federal heavy-current inspectorate?

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