@finewood

Just to clarify… Nowhere did I say that you should run away, that you are social cases, etc… Please stick to the truth. I’ll let it go now, but I won’t allow myself to be accused of such untruths!

No, we don’t always know everything better, but we have said that by forgoing certain options or making adjustments to the subscription, you can definitely save some money. But if you really want to save money, there are cheaper alternatives from other providers. I’m just wondering… what else do we want to say? I don’t know of any trick that you can use to prevent the price increase from taking effect. I don’t think the increase is good either, but there’s nothing we can do, right? I think that should definitely say everything.

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@Stiechupo87 wrote:

….I will probably switch to Wingo too. Question about your list, but these promotional prices are history again, right?

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The Wingo promos change every few weeks and also repeat themselves. Just wait for the right promo. Or change it later, because with Wingo promos usually also apply to existing customers

Can anyone report on the weaknesses of Wingo. About a year ago I was in contact with Wingo and the nice gentleman advised me against using the Internet at Wingo. He said the WiFi signals are significantly weaker than with Swisscom. I will not be happy with Swisscom’s solution. Is that still the case?

I have 2 TVs in my household. One is connected with a cable, the other via WiFi. We also operate various I Pads and I Phons. What do you think, will I notice that?

Thank you very much

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@Stiechupo87 wrote:

….. About a year ago I was in contact with Wingo and the nice gentleman advised me against using the Internet at Wingo. He said the WiFi signals are significantly weaker than with Swisscom.

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I can’t confirm that the Wingo routers have the same hardware (including WLAN) and their drivers as the Swisscom routers. Only the GUI functions are somewhat reduced.

The Swisscom WLAN boxes also work without any problems.

Well, the same hardware is true. But a year ago Swisscom was using the IB3/4, and at Wingo they were often still using the IB2.

I don’t think anyone will deny that the WLAN experience with the IB2 is not the same as the IB3/4 😉

You hug @millernet who writes “If you live on the subsistence level, you are well advised not to use Swisscom products…… ”. I assume that you share his opinion and that confirms me 100%. In this forum I have now asked a few questions or made a few observations, but received no answers or then received didactic, arrogant answers. @millernet would write “If you don’t like it, you would be well advised not to use this forum?” I’ll do it from tomorrow…

@“x”#29799Do you know the saying about calling into the forest? That’s exactly how it is.

@kaetho Hmm, I just understand the train station. So Wingo is currently worse than Swisscom and how is this noticeable? Sorry, but I’m not familiar with your technical terms 🙂

@Stiechupo87

It is clear that certain compromises have to be accepted for the price. The question always remains how important it is to you. Support is also not always available and is always chargeable over the telephone.

Take a look at this thread: [https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Internet-general/Wingo-TV-und-blue-TV-Unterschied/td-p/778928](https://community. swisscom.ch/t5/Internet-general/Wingo-TV-und-blue-TV-Unterschied/td-p/778928)

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@finewood wrote:

You hug @millernet who writes “If you live on the subsistence level, you are well advised not to use Swisscom products…… ”. I assume that you share his opinion and that confirms me 100%. In this forum I have now asked a few questions or made a few observations, but received no answers or then received didactic, arrogant answers. @millernet would write “If you don’t like it, you would be well advised not to use this forum?” I’ll do it from tomorrow…

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Hey? Next time I’ll probably use GPT-4o for politically correct and well-worded answers. My statement was simply that Swisscom is an expensive premium provider with corresponding premium products. If you really want to save money, go to competitors or the in-house cheap brands such as Wingo and MBudget. There is a better price-performance ratio there. I didn’t say anything more. I would never make derogatory comments about people on the subsistence level.

@finewood

You mentioned last week that you would pay 9.90 more. Do I believe blue TV S? We would be happy to help you. This old subscription will be discontinued and you will automatically switch to the “new” blue TV S. If you have a replay for it, whether you need it is another matter. Now the answer. The new subscription is binding for everyone, you cannot say that you don’t want it, otherwise you will have to expect Swisscom to cancel it if you insist on the old subscription. So what’s left… swallow and accept the surcharge or take another offer from another provider, e.g. Wingo. Of course, the final decision remains yours. Unfortunately, I don’t regret having to provide an answer other than this, but unfortunately that’s how it is. Just… accept or change.

Hello @finewood

I assume you are referring to the question on posting 131

We have had Swisscom since it was introduced, copper and blue Internet S, blue TV S (5.-), blue telephony M and pay 84.90/month. After I received the message that blue TV S would no longer be available, but it would still be available for just 9.90 more, I wanted to take a closer look at my subscription. I have to be honest, I couldn’t find out what I was paying for and how much, but there was a huge jumble of various promotions and offers that would all be cheaper if I saw it correctly, could or wanted to use it. It just leaves me perplexed. I swallow it one last time.

The prices I found are:

blue Internet S 40 (old) => 60.-

blue TV S (old) => 5.-
blue telephony M => 15.-

However, I only get 80.- and not 84.90

Unfortunately, with the new prices it will be expensive. And unfortunately it’s not just 9.90 because the internet subscription is also no longer available and the new one is 4.90 more expensive

blue Internet S => 64.90
blue TV S => 14.90
blue telephony M => 15.-

That would be 94.80

Of course you can also take a look at what Wingo has going on. For example, I see internet for 39.90 and TV for 15.00, but Wingo doesn’t seem to offer any landline telephony. Possibly @NilsL knows more, he is the Wingo specialist. But there would certainly be a solution for telephony.

@Stephan_76 @finewood

Because of the Wingo telephony: Wingo has a free telephony offer (included with the Internet). Phone number porting is possible, DECT connection of the phones to the Wingo router is now also possible (information on the website is out of date, DECT has been activated since v13.10.50)

The only problem is that Wingo does not have a telephony flat rate, only a minute rate; 0.05/min. to the Swiss landline, 0.30/min. to the Swiss mobile network

You have to look at how often you talk on the phone, etc.

The way I do this for my customers is to recommend that they use the money they have saved by switching to Wingo to get a cell phone subscription with GoMo (or Wingo, depending on their needs) and make calls via their cell phone. Landline only for incoming calls

If a landline with a flat rate is mandatory, Mbudet Mobile still has good offers, but unfortunately the discount is not lifelong -> you have to check back with them every 2 years

Exactly, the key point with Wingo is when you still need the landline a lot or make a lot of calls. Especially with a lot of calls on the CH mobile network, this can cost a lot of money at 30 centimes per minute. You really have to be careful, otherwise the savings on Wingo will quickly be gone! You can then go with a mobile subscription at Wingo with a flat rate of approx. 25.-/month. definitely better and you are on the safe side.

@Samsi Exactly. If you currently only have a PrePaid and/or only use your cell phone very rarely, a subscription to GoMo might be worth it, half as expensive as a mobile subscription to Wingo. No roaming options and no salt network (WiFi calling works the same way, so it doesn’t matter if you’re at home)

If someone is an active “landline chatterbox” and therefore a telephony flat rate to the entire CH mobile and landline network is important, then that changes the evaluation of a new triple play package a little.

As already mentioned, the free landline offer from Wingo is actually only very suitable for basic accessibility on the landline but not for active, intensive outgoing calls with additional per-minute rates.

Apart from the various pure SIP telephony providers, the only ISP in Switzerland that also offers an Internet provider-independent landline telephony flat rate, which would also run on any Internet connection, such as Wingo, is iWay. As far as I know, the standalone flat rate costs CHF 20/month.

However, if landline telephony is important and it doesn’t necessarily have to be Wingo, you should definitely take a closer look at the package offers from M-Budget, iWay and Teleboy (and in the case of fiber optic connections also Salt Home), because all 3 offer in addition to the landline Telephony Flat also offers the complete triple play of landline telephony, Internet and TV.

When it comes to TV, they also differ in whether they offer their own TV boxes with classic channel number remote controls or whether setups from third-party providers, such as Apple TV boxes, are recommended.

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@Stiechupo87 wrote:

@kaetho Hmm, just understand train station. So Wingo is currently worse than Swisscom and how is this noticeable? Sorry, but I’m not familiar with your technical terms 🙂

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No, that wasn’t my core message. This is: the WiFi of the old Internetbox 2 does not perform as well as that of the more recent Internetbox 3.

Wingo is always a little behind with the hardware and has only started to equip customers with the same, more up-to-date hardware.

When making his statement, your consultant compared two different hardware versions, namely the much older IB2 from Wingo with the more current IB3 from Swisscom. That’s why his statement back then was correct when he said that Wingo has worse WiFi than Swisscom.

@kaetho Since the end of March, all Wingo subscriptions have included an IB3 as standard, the IB2 is in phase-out

If you currently still have an IB2 (or even IB Plus) at Wingo: Whatsapp Support will be happy to replace it with an IB3 for free. However, Wingo does not “proactively” replace the boxes, not even the IB Plus

Related to the original question: “Is the WiFi on the Wingo product generally worse than on the blue product due to the subscription?”

In any case, the answer is clearly “no”.

By the way, “Wingo” currently delivers the IB3/4 models just like “blue” 🙂