Anschluss Dolby Surround system with Swisscom Box 5

Salute

ok, without knowing your installation:

Via HDMI to TV, from there to your system, either via HDMI arc or possibly via optical output.

I still have the older one. variant, I proceed as described above. HDMI on tv, opt on Sonos.

Greetings Roger

Or via HDMI to the surround amplifier and from there via HDMI to the TV.

HDMI today also offers better transmission quality for audio than Toshlink, which was once considered state of the art.

Greetings, Thomas

Hello @Spawn

Does the amplifier not have an HDMI input?

Then you would go in there and go to the HDMI output on your TV.

Or TV Box directly to the TV HDMI and VoM TV HDamI ACR back to the amplifier.

Please state your amplifier model.

This is the best way to help you in the way mentioned.

And the new HDamai cables have to be everywhere, otherwise you will have trouble.

Greetings Lorenz

Hello @Spawn

no, my surround amplifier has (at least) one HDMI input and one HDMI output.

HDMI is used to transmit images and sound in one cable. This also has the advantage that there are far fewer asynchronous problems because the image and sound do not have to be separated, as happens when using Toshlink, for example.

My AVR (AudioVideoReceiver) has 5 HDMI inputs and one HDMI output. There are various players at the inputs (Swisscom TV-Box, Apple TV, games console…) and of course the TV at the output.

The sound on the TV is then switched off. The source selection then happens on the AVR and not on the TV.

I know that there are manufacturers who build surround amplifiers differently than according to the scheme described. What model/brand do you have?

What have you bought now?

Hello @Spawn

With your new Samsung soundbar you can now use completely new audio formats that your old system didn’t have, such as Dolby Atmos and DTS:X 😉

LG and have fun with your new soundbar 🙂

Hello

I have a question about your second variant (box via HDMI to TV….):
You switch the box on with the Swisscom remote control, because the TV uses the TV remote control, the TV then controls the receiver via ACR and switches it on. Am I seeing this correctly?

It would be nice if all components (TV and receiver) would come on when you switch on the TV box. Isn’t that possible?

Thank you for the help.

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@marc68 wrote:

…It would be nice if all components (TV and receiver) would come on when you switch on the TV box. Isn’t that possible?

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That’s what HDMI-CEC is for. Activate on all components involved and then it usually works, with a bit of luck…

That would be the point of HDMI-CEC (Consumer Electronics Control), that one device switches the others.

HDMI-CEC can be switched on and off in the Swisscom TV settings. On TVs, the function is called differently depending on the manufacturer…

See also this post:

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/TV-Wissensbox/HDMI-CEC-Immer-auf-dem-rechte-Kanal/ta-p/582271](https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/ TV knowledge box/HDMI-CEC-always-on-the-right-channel/ta-p/582271)

If it doesn’t work, Steffen, for example, has so-called “master-slave sockets” where the slave devices are switched on as soon as the master device (STB) is switched on.

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@POGO 1104 wrote:

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@marc68 wrote:

…It would be nice if all components (TV and receiver) would come on when you switch on the TV box. Isn’t that possible?

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That’s what HDMI-CEC is for. Activate on all components involved and then it usually works, with a bit of luck…

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… “with a bit of luck” it works “most of the time”. Well put! Conversely, this means: CEC is still often unusable… 😉

Unfortunately yes, HDMI-CEC would (!) be a nice standard, described in a specification, everything would be wonderful.

The reality is that every TV manufacturer cooks its own soup…

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@kaetho wrote:

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@POGO 1104 wrote:

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@marc68 wrote:

…It would be nice if all components (TV and receiver) would come on when you switch on the TV box. Isn’t that possible?

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That’s what HDMI-CEC is for. Activate on all components involved and then it usually works, with a bit of luck…

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… “with a bit of luck” it works “most of the time”. Well put! Conversely, this means: CEC is still often unusable… 😉

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The TV-Box 5 in particular is still a bit “stubborn” because for me, when HDMI-CEC is activated, it not only switches on the TV, but is also switched on bidirectionally rather unexpectedly by the TV.

If you only have a single TV-Box connected to the TV, that’s actually not a problem, but of course it is if you have several HDMI players on the TV, because when I switch on the Apple TV-Box, it starts the TV and also shows up until after about 20 seconds the TV-Box 5, which was started by the TV in a similar way to a “feedback” and then the last one to come online was the Apple TV-Box steals your HDMI channel and plays the last selected channel from blue TV as a live program.

What I’ve managed so far is that I have paired all of my devices involved with HDMI-CEC, but only excluded the TV-Box 5 from it.

For me, this is now only connected to the TV set via the IR coupling of the FB, so the TV set can also start up via the Swisscom FB, but it no longer messes around in the overall HDMI-CEC network.

What doesn’t work, however, is the automatic selection of the correct HDMI input. Luckily, the Swisscom FB also has a separate “toggle” button for this.

In later releases of the firmware of the TV-Box 5 I will certainly check again whether the exaggerated “selfishness” of the TV-Box 5 regarding HDMI-CEC could be curbed a little.