@Weupaustap62

How exactly does your comment fit into the discussion above?
By the way, this is just under half a year old.

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Dominik

I don’t understand what you mean. The original post is from 08.10.2020 which is 2 years and 3 months ago.

Secondly, the “solution” of “just change your region” does not work. It’s not as simple as 1 2 3 to change the App Store region: If you have any running App Store subscriptions, tough luck - you can not change your region.

The correct solution is for Swisscom to get their act together and abolish this unnecessary and client-demonizing region lock. The use-case exists for every single foreigner living in Switzerland.

Firstly, it might be intended from SC to only publish the App only in Switzerland. I do not know the reasons and arguing doesn’t take us to the Aim.

Secondly, Foreigners living in Switzerland should have a Address of Residence, why not using this one in the Apple ID? 🤔

Then you should be able to use CH-Apps…

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Dominik

The address of residence is nothing to do with it. The issue is losing data, music,etc. when you change App Stores. If you scroll back through this thread you will see that many, many Swiss companies makes their apps available in international app stores, and even some of the other Swisscom apps are available internationally!!!

I still do not understand why it is so difficult for Swisscom to make this change and serve your customers!

Regards,

Davy

@DomiP I believe you should stop replying to this thread, because I don’t think you understand the problem well enough.

What you stated is wrong: we know exactly why Swisscom doesn’t want to do this. As @AdrianW has written, and I quote “[…] if the app is also available in [other countries] Store, the legal framework of the respective country would have to be considered. The effort involved outweigs the value.”

Quite frankly, I’ve never heard a more ridiculous way of saying “we don’t care”. A huge company like Swisscom should be able to revoke a region lock in a globalized world, just like Sunrise and Yallo did.

In my final attempt to explain why I can’t physically change my App Store region, I attach this screenshot:

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And as @davy3c has correctly stated, changing the region comes with additional, unforeseen consequences for your customers. In summary, this region lock is lazy anti-user design and nothing else.

Whether I participate in this discussion or not, I may finally still decide for myself.

As I already mentioned and as Adrian also wrote, it is about the regulatory rules. For example, software is also subject to export regulations. In Swisscom software this is clearly noted everywhere. Namely, for example, Russia, Iran, Iraq or North Korea.

Sure, you could unlock the apps for USA or UK, but it also means that the apps must comply with the regulations of the respective countries and authorities.

For a small number of affected customers, Swisscom will probably refrain from investing such an effort, especially since all functions of the MySwisscom app can be accessed within MySwisscom on the web, for example. The same applies to Cockpit, Mail, BlueTV or simply MyCloud.

As for the competition, let me put it this way, the other providers, especially Yallo, often also point to users from abroad (such as the “poorer” euro area), so the provider’s customer base is significantly more from abroad than Swisscom. But even there, web apps are now so widespread that native, normal apps are becoming obsolete.

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Dominik

@DomiP my friend you’re adding nothing of value to this conversation. Everything you say has either been said before or is plain false.

When you don’t want me or anyone from Europe as a customer, you’re a lost cause. 40% of Swiss residents are foreigners. That’s almost half of your customer-base mate.

This is a much requested feature.

For example, there is another post on the exact same topic where once again the problems of changing your region are summarized. Then there is yet another post with the same topic. And that’s just the vocal users who are willing to put up with this garbage. Additionally there is this post where you have suggested to download a dubious APK for another Swisscom app from a “mostly secure” website. It seems Swisscom now wants to install viruses on their user’s devices.

This is not your decision my man. Ask a manager if 40% of possible customers is “worth the effort”.

Goodbye.

There’s no point in discussing it with you anyway. I suggest that the issue be escalated further via @ThomasS. He certainly has contact with the relevant agencies.

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Dominik


@DomiP wrote:

There’s no point in discussing it with you anyway. I suggest that the issue be escalated further via @ThomasS. He certainly has contact with the relevant agencies.


Hey there

I talked to the product manager.

He told me that there have been several internal discussions. The legal department has made an analysis last autumn.

Together with the board Swisscom has decided to focus on offering Apps in Switzerland. The costs and legal risks outweigh the value currently.

I hope this answer provides some clarity.

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ThomasS

5 months later

I know this question has already been answered, but I am adding my voice to this problem: I’m a Swiss citizen who lived for 20 years in the US. My phone and all my digital life are attached to the AppStore in the US, so switching the AppStore location to Switzerland is not an option. As someone said, all the other apps I need, Migros, Poste, etc. are available; it is too bad Swisscom is unavailable.

@jbovet I do think that *maybe* with iOS 17 these Problems are not there anymore. According to new Laws in the European Union, Apple is obligated to provide the possibility to “sideload” apps - so this could also work here (if you are geographically located in Europe/Switzerland)

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Dominik