Alternatives to MultiLINE ISDN and DSL Basic

Hello MarcoR

I gave up ISDN MultiLine about 2 ½ years ago because I no longer needed the other telephone numbers (e.g. also fax), and switched to a Swisscom package that was standard at the time, with Internet / TV / landline. I have always been happy with it so far and have found Swisscom to be very accommodating. With a little “negotiating” more favorable conditions resulted, e.g. lower price for devices, or free “connection”, or sometimes 1 month without subscription billing. This was probably also possible because I increased the subscription with Swisscom TV (previously Cablecom). Simply call customer service and discuss it. By the way, I can highly recommend Swisscom TV.

Of course there are additional costs when switching. The so-called NT must be replaced, as well as the telephone device(s).

@pecorma

The NT device does not need to be replaced, it can be thrown away or Swisscom wants it back, which I can’t imagine. ISDN is actually dead.

@frenchman

Yes, of course - ISDN is actually dead. But instead of the ISDN device, MarcoR’s aunt needs something else, hence my choice of words that it has to be “replaced” (Swisscom Internet-Box / router).

@pecorma

yes of course, it needs a router instead of the NT device

This is what the new router (Internet box) looks like. This is connected directly to the main telephone line. With the gray connections you have the option of plugging in analogue telephones. With HD-Phone you can connect directly to the built-in DECT station wirelessly.

With the yellow connections you can e.g. plug in a PC and also TV 2.0.

[https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/hilfe/geraet/internet-router/internetbox-standard.html](https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/hilfe/geraet/internet- router/internetbox-standard.html)

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MarcoR wrote:

Did I understand you correctly: For example, I can order a Vivo-Paket and then simply plug in the router supplied instead of the NT and then it will work? So no new/better “supply line” (copper or glass) and Anschluss are needed for the router?

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That’s exactly how it is normally…no - no other supply line is necessary

Depending on what your aunt needs (telephone, internet, TV), a M-Budget combination offer could also be an option. For just CHF 40.– similar to Swisscom Casa, but with a telephone flat rate to the CH landline…

And just M-Budget telephone support and no Swisscom support….

https://shop.m-budget.migros.ch/de/kombiangebote

[https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/festnetz/anschluesse-tarife/swisscom-casa.html](https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/festnetz/anschluesse-tarife/swisscom- casa.html)

https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/kombi-angebote/angebote.html

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@POGO 1104 wrote:

…. That’s exactly how it is normally…no - no other supply line is necessary

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If there is already a fiber optic socket installed in the apartment, then the Anschluss could be easier there (just plug everything together correctly).

Walter

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@MarcoR

@MarcoR wrote:

Does Swisscom TV run properly with a theoretical bandwidth of 2 Mbit/s?

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No, are you sure there is only that much?

What does the availability check show at the link below?

https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/checker.html

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@MarcoR wrote:

The “Swisscom Casa” and M-Budget “Kombi 1” subscriptions have Swisscom TV 2.0 light and a 2 Mbit/s download rate, yes.

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Simply that there are no misunderstandings:

M-Budget TV is not the same as Swisscom TV. It’s probably pretty similar and the channel selection is +/- the same and the picture quality should also be the same. The same backend is probably running in the background. But the look and feel of the frontend is different.

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@MarcoR wrote:

I can imagine. But if it’s sold together, you can assume that it runs smoothly, right?

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If you don’t answer the question of what the availability check shows, they won’t be able to give you an answer as to whether the TV is running smoothly. A subscription does not say what might be available and it would not be the first time that a subscription was sold that does not meet the requirements.

You can order a subscription with slow internet which only limits the speed but would have more power available in the background and this additional power will then automatically be available on TV, but e.g. not for surfing on a PC.

It is therefore important whether this service is available for TV in the background.

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@MarcoR wrote:

As I said, it currently has MultiLINE ISDN and DSL Basic. TV still runs via satellite (DVB-T).

Your advice is good to know when deciding on a new, suitable subscription. Thank you for that.

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It doesn’t matter what you have now, the availability check shows what could be possible with this Anschluss and you can then deal with the subscription accordingly. It is important to enter both values, existing main telephone number or address.

https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/checker.html

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@MarcoR wrote:

I thought you meant a speed test - sorry!

Here is the result:

Internet speed at the locationDownload: max. 15 Mbit/sUpload: max. 1 Mbit/s
Swisscom TV is available in HD quality

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Yes, exactly this information and you can see that the value for an HDTV should just be enough, now it depends on how the existing internal installation is carried out in order to get the best values.

In any case, the simplest subscription would be e.g. with TV 2.0 the Vivo XS, which includes the costs for the monthly line connection.

[https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/kombi-angebote/angebote/vivo-xs.html?feature1=false&feature2=true](https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/kombi- offers/offers/vivo-xs.html?feature1=false&feature2=true)

or the Migros ABo with reduced performance

https://shop.m-budget.migros.ch/de/kombiangebote/internet?gclid=Cj0KEQjwiKS3BRCU-7XQ75Te3NoBEiQAA2t_xDSk0deKW1fGdJXsqU28s0ZgxQsfvHJ3GgV82qALAr0aAq5w8P8HAQ