@Werner

Water supply, electricity supply, rail and road networks are also subsidized.

and being perceived does not mean that it is so. If you want it that way, you should implement it that way and not expect something from a corporation that works for profit. The expectations are also pretty high when you see how willing you are to provide something in return (you want to die for fiber optics and then only use it 50/50, ideally for free).

In any case, I am of the opinion that we can do quite well with Sweden when it comes to network expansion and its structuring.

@Doc

You are of course right, if broadband provision is classified as a public service, it should consequently be treated as such.

For example, a Swiss Grid merger of all Telekom networks.

Of course there are still a few steps missing…

But it’s definitely a nice idea/a nice goal 🙂

and then EVERYONE benefits

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@WalterB wrote:

@Doc

Of course, fiber optic networks are being built, in Baden and the surrounding area, even free of charge into the apartments of tenants and landlords.

https://www.baden4net.ch/

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So Baden and the surrounding area is a bit generous, otherwise I would have too 😄

Is only Baden and Ennetbaden

@fabian86

Segelhof, Dättwil is e.g. also included, including the catchment area of ​​the regional works!

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@WalterB wrote:

@fabian86

Segelhof, Dättwil is e.g. also there!

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That’s all part of Baden 😉

Turgi, Ennetbaden, Fislisbach etc. wouldn’t be Baden then 🙂

And they also pay taxes directly to Baden and are managed by the city of Baden?

From what I learned, the outlying communities were contacted!

https://www.openaxs.ch/de/aktuelles/melden/2016/baden.php

Dättwil belongs to the municipality of Baden

Could you please stick to the topic “G.fast” and post fiber optic topics in the appropriate forum?

Thank you very much 🙂

Roger G

Jahahahaha, does it make a difference?

@Roger G

Thank you for clarifying that the “G.fast” connection type is not a fiber optic connection.

This is actually very often confused:

By the way, not only with customers, but also with Swisscom marketing in an attempt to promote its image, which has zeroed in on the term “fiber optic technologies”.

“Copper technologies” or “KAK-Anschluss” (short copper connection) would of course be much less likely to be confused, but it doesn’t sound nearly as sexy…

The thing about G.fast is already known, the discussion was also about why there were different advanced installations from different providers in some places.

[https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/internet- Fernsehen-festnetz/internet/glasfarben.html](https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/internet- Fernsehen-festnetz/internet/ fiberglass.html)

I can help or explain questions about G.fast, expansion, technology, routers, future, etc. or even analyze problems… but not via FTTH, for example somewhere in Baden or Dättwil. That’s why it doesn’t fit here.

@Roger G

Ok, maybe you can answer my question then. Going towards the future 🙂

I switched to you a little over half a year ago after my location was expanded, unfortunately only g.Fast (but FTTB is built, the installer even showed it to me at the time, and no, it’s definitely not just FTTS like I always have one If you want to tell us about your hotine, please train your staff better). I made a lot of clarifications in advance. Especially when it comes to a proper fiber optic connection, or the possibility of financing the whole thing yourself, etc. but you were just blocked. After X attempts, I finally got a good technician on the phone who explained to me that this wasn’t yet possible and that they were already testing new technology at various locations in order to offer it later so that I could then get an FTTH individually.

Two weeks ago I tried to ask you again what it was like, but so far everyone I’ve had no idea or they’ve been referred to Checker (Wow, what a customer service).

Can you tell me more about this new technology? I actually don’t feel like moving, but if it’s going to take years for something to happen, then it needs to be seriously looked into.

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@Thomy22 wrote:

@Roger G

…..or the possibility of financing the whole thing yourself etc. but you were just blocked. After X attempts, I finally got a good technician on the phone who then explained to me that this wasn’t yet possible and that they were already testing new technology at various locations in order to offer it later so that I could then get an FTTH individually** .

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Can you tell me more about this new technology? I actually don’t feel like moving, but if it’s going to take years for something to happen, then it needs to be seriously looked into.

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I like to get attached to that too. My investigations have shown exactly the same thing: financing FTTH yourself is not possible because a completely different technology is used for FTTS/FTTB than for FTTH. Of course, with FTTH I have a fiber optic connection to the headquarters, with FTTS I share a grass fiber with all the other copper connections that go from the FTTS-Anschluss to the households.

What does it look like today? Can this be understood to mean that, at the customer’s request, the last few meters of copper are individually replaced with glass? Are symmetrical profiles up to 1GBit/s (or even 10GBit/s?) possible? Do the 48 or 16 customers who are connected to such a distributor share a fiber optic cable from there to the headquarters?

Greetings, Thomas

@kaetho

Yes, that’s exactly how I understood it as described by the technician at the time. Fiber optics are simply pulled into the apartment and then the Anschluss is simply shared. Actually, like Salt already does, as you have read. It’s still not the best FTTH experience (according to colleague Künzler) but at least you would have a lot more speed than now. You would especially notice this during the upload and that is more important to me than the download anyway.

@Thomy22

The question then arises as to what speed the mcans are then connected to the control center. That would then be a “shared medium”, just a little earlier than at the headquarters.

@Roger G can certainly provide more information. I’m curious.

Thomas

Regarding the future development of FTTS/FTTB at Swisscom, here is a link to an article with background and source material:

https://www.inside-it.ch/articles/49939

@kaetho

Well, that will definitely be 10 Gbit. Then share with 16 or 32 others. I think 48 is a bit much, although even then I believe that 90% of it is still much, much faster than it is now, because how many people will be loading or uploading non-stop so that 10 Gbit is used, that will be the case very little. I only know from some who are at Salt that they always have well over 1 Gbit except during prime times, but so far it has never fallen below 500 Mbit.