@Herby: You’re right!:smileyvery-happy: I just don’t understand Maddemaddick, the numbers and spelling:smileywink:

By the way: The 7390CH runs with VDSL Annex B with PPPoE, i.e. with other providers.

@Herby: So there are probably only 19% (= 25% minus winning the lottery) for whom the whole thing is a problem… ^^

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Well, that’s little consolation for me too. Even if it probably affects less than 10% of 7390 users, since not everyone has an ISDN Anschluss. I don’t know the market shares either, but since it affects me, it really bothers me, especially since I’ve been waiting eagerly for this part for over 2 years, and with the 7570 it worked on all connections, I felt like a little child I was happy in front of the X-Max-Tree when I knew that the package had arrived home.

And then such a sh…

Well, let’s see how the AVM maneuvers its way out of this:


@AVM Support wrote:

So, based on analyzes (including yours), we were able to narrow down the problem.

I can currently provide you with an instant solution. do not offer - further tests must first confirm the result and the corresponding change.

As soon as the solution is available (this will result in a new firmware), this firmware can be downloaded.

I would like to apologize to you for the circumstances on behalf of the AVM and ask you for a little patience - the solution is almost here.


Whatever FAST means?……chz-chz-chz-chz……

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Just to give some quick feedback…

A few days ago I received complete instructions from AVM support on how to create support files (if anyone is interested in the details [here](http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showpost.php?p =1614206&postcount=43) a link). I struggled with it for a few hours and gave it up after the 3rd hour and the 5th attempt regarding the DSL diagnostic data… It just didn’t want to work: The dsldata.dsl file kept only containing “cat : can’t open ‘/var/dsl/diagnose/*’: No such file or directory”

Has anyone else tried this creation? Did it work for you (CH-A FB 7390 with only “outdated” firmware 83)?

Since I don’t receive any notifications of new posts with this forum software (and I always have problems posting myself), I just stopped by again today. Everything has now been confirmed as I (unfortunately) suspected from the beginning… 😞

What dismays me is how AVM is proceeding. Grrrrr… First of all, it’s only been 9 months since they finally release a box for the Swiss market and then it doesn’t even work for VDSL(2) Annex B even though the German box is apparently already running with the newer f/w 86. Secondly, the AVM support department communicates pretty much nothing and forces users (like me) to test the whole thing even though they are already well informed that it doesn’t work. And I’m not talking about the hours of zero exercises I did to try to install the latest firmware version on the CH-A-FB. There is not a word on the AVM website about the fact that the latest firmware does not work for this model!:smileymad::smileymad: And last but not least, I could also mention that I asked AVM specifically and in detail BEFORE purchasing whether VDSL (2) would work with Annex B here. The answer was YES. So my first experiences with Fritz material were excellent…

Then a quick technical note: It looks like the VDSL2-ISDN (Annex B) runs with PPPoA encapsulation (apparently not like Annex A). I wonder if there are additional options available in the access settings in the new 86 f/w, i.e. the possibility of specifying an account + password AND PPPoA (LLC, I suspect). With the old f/w 83 it’s just not possible (at least in the GUI.) Can someone answer or, even better, post a screenshot of the relevant settings?! 🙂

It still occurs to me that you can’t choose between DHCP (WAN side) or fixed IP AND account + password. Is it different in the new f/w? (NB: It definitely doesn’t matter whether DHCP is used in the LAN or not.)

Like the others, I’m now waiting for the new f/w… 😕

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Voilà, here are the screenshots with the .86 firmware of the DE version.

PPPoA.jpg

rfc1483.jpg

So it looks exactly the same as the CH.83

“I wonder if there are additional options available in the access settings in the new 86 f/w, i.e. the possibility of specifying an account + password AND PPPoA (LLC, I suspect).”

--> You can also do that with the.83 firmware, it looks exactly the same. “Expert view” activated? (under System >> View) Then that works.

“It still occurs to me that you can’t choose between DHCP (WAN side) or fixed IP AND account + password.”

--> The box with PPPoE does not receive the IP (whether it is fixed or not) through your input, but through the provider during the registration process. So if you log in with an account and password and have “purchased” a fixed IP, then the box will receive this when you log in. The IP is then visible at "Internet >> Online Monitor. With RFC1483/RFC2684 you have to set your fixed IP yourself (see screenshot). But with Swisscom you configure according to the Peoplephone sheet anyway, so you don’t have these problems at all …

“(NB: It definitely doesn’t matter whether DHCP is used in the LAN or not.)”

--> correct 🙂

And yes, AVM is a bit lame when it comes to Switzerland, and they apparently realized too late that some people in Switzerland have Swisscom as a provider and that you should test that beforehand… But don’t bury your head in the sand , there will probably be a firmware update coming very soon, AVM can’t be interested in annoying customers. And if the Fritzbox ever works for you, then your second experience with Fritz material will be excellent… I’ve been using a Fritzbox for over 4 years (first 7170, then 7570, now 7390), and I would never give more in life. Certainly not against a Swisscom Centro Grande… ^^

Greetings and have a nice weekend!

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@mynameisthase

Thank you for the screenshots!! 🙂

So in fact there are no GUI differences at all in this area between the f/w.83 and .86.

Now I’m just wondering whether you have selected the option ‘Access data is required’ or the other option ‘Access data is NOT required’ for the VDSL(2) over ISDN connection that works with your box (D-FB Annex B)? I suspect with credentials and PPPoA/LLC. Correctly?

>>… the box with PPPoE does not receive the IP (whether it is fixed or not) through your input, but rather through the provider during the registration process. So if you log in with an account and password and have “purchased” a fixed IP, then the box will receive this when you log in.<<

As far as I know, the principle also works on the WAN side (DSL) in exactly the same way as on the LAN, i.e. either you enter a specific (fixed) IP yourself or you have it obtained from a DHCP server. Of course, under certain circumstances the server can assign the same one over and over again, but this is rather an exception (like with Swisscom).

>>With Swisscom you configure according to the Peoplephone sheet anyway, then you don’t have these problems at all…<<

The option WITHOUT access data is selected there, which is NOT possible with VDSL (and ADSL) at Swisscom because the access data is absolutely necessary. Or have I completely misunderstood something?!?…

Yes, let’s wait and see (what else is there to do other than swap the CH-A-FB for a D)… 🙂

Thanks

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Hello everyone

I have a quick question: I use the Swisscom product Infinity (analog). I don’t have BluewinTV and won’t have one either. Can I easily operate an FB 7390 CH version on this Anschluss instead of the Swisscom device? I’m assuming Infinity is VDSL and not ADSL, right?

Thank you very much for your help.

jur5otf

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It seems that the FB7390CH runs without any problems on a Swisscom analog VDSL Anschluss. It doesn’t matter whether with or without Swisscom TV.

In the early days of Infinity it was partly connected with ADSL, but for about 2 years I have only known of switched VDSL connections with Infinity

greetings, o.s.t.

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….keep on rockin' 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

YES, it runs without any problems. Whether VDSL or ADSL analogue. Simply configure according to Peoplefone instructions. The instructions/settings are for the 7570, but that doesn’t matter, they are the same.

Have fun with the part.

Greetings Herby

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#user63

So…. after I had the same problems with the FB7390 with ISDN and Infinity and went through all the suffering steps like everyone else, now the suffering is over…..:smileyvery-happy:

I received a beta version from AVM today so that I can test the DSL-Anschluss better…

Firmware installed and see:

It's running - VDSL/ISDN

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@BlueDragon:

With Swisscom-VDSL you don’t need any access data.

Ergo: Access data is NOT required –> everything according to the Peoplephone sample config (you can add anything to the DHCP host name).

As far as I know, Swisscom has PPPoE for ADSL connections, so you would need the access data there.

You will also receive a fixed IP from your provider, which you cannot simply choose freely.

Imagine the Internet as a LAN: What if 2 people had the same IP? Chaos. 🙂

But because the addresses are slowly running out anyway, IPv6 will soon come along, which is already fully supported by the Fritzbox.

Greetings and have a nice evening everyone!

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Hey res999

Am I correct in assuming that you have an FBF 7390CH?

I just sent an email to AVM support this morning asking that the beta be spread a little more widely.

If that doesn’t work, can you send me the beta?

Greetings Zerofreak

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Hello

I also have exactly this problem: I can’t get a connection to the Fritzbox 7390 with the ISDN connection.

This really annoys me and I have already written to avm support. I complained to them that it wasn’t working.

I read here that you received a beta version of the firmware.

I would also be very grateful to you to send these to me.

Thank you very much in advance.

Kind regards, Marcus

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Since the (beta) firmware version 84.04.86-18404 finally allows a VDSL2 connection to be set up via ISDN with the A-CH FB, everyone can look forward to it!! A little more patience and I think the official version will be available for download.

A big thank you to AVM!! 🙂

@mynameisthase

>>With Swisscom-VDSL you don’t need any access data.<<

Oh yes? Try running a Motorola Netopia router from Swisscom without access data… They’re there just to make it look more serious. 😉

With regard to the A-CH FB 3790 and the Beta-f/w, I can say that practically all access settings work. I assume the FB DSL interface communicates fully automatically with the DSLAM (if the correct manual Annnex selection is made). So you can safely do without the Peoplefone pdf for VDSL2 via ISDN (Swisscom Infinity). 😄

>>You will also receive a fixed IP from your provider, which you cannot simply choose freely.

Imagine the Internet as a LAN: What if 2 people had the same IP? Chaos.:-)<<

You don’t choose them freely but the DHCP server determines which ones you receive. Regarding DHCP implementation, there are 3 types of allocations: dynamic, automatic and static. Both last 2 types usually always remain the same, i.e. viewed from the Internet like a so-called fixed IP. The DHCP ranges are assigned worldwide in a coordinated manner by RIPE, so there is no chaos. 😉

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Hello everyone

I’ve had a 7390 for a few days and am also struggling with getting it started. I would like to operate the whole thing on a Swisscom ISDN/ADSL Anschluss. When I first connected to the FB, I answered the question about the annex with Annex A, which is therefore wrong.

How can I change the configuration on Annex B?

Thank you.

Greetings Brukue

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Hello brukue

If you have not yet activated the expert view, you cannot make the setting.

So first at:

> System >

> View >

> Activate expert view >

If this has happened:

Sorry, I just realized that I can’t tell you what to do next, but only now can you switch from Annex A to B.

(I have a different firmware on it, the user interface looks a little different)

Greetings Herby

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#user63

Hello everyone,

So I have the 7390ch connected via VDSL/ISDN Swisscom Business light (static IP).

Yesterday I tried to flash the Fritzbox with the German laboratory version.86 and the ruKernelTool. Due to a carelessness (firewall active) the flashing failed and I was initially locked out (red INFO LED just flashing). After a long time of trying, I was able to establish a connection again with the recovery version. So I quickly flashed the “FRITZ.Box_Fon_WLAN_7390.04.86.recover-image” and lo and behold, the synchronization now works perfectly (everything else does, of course).

So from my point of view you can flash the German firmware into the CH box without any problems.

This article is also helpful:

[http://trick77.com/2010/10/08/fritzbox-7390-schweiz-aktuellste-firmware-einspiele-laborversionen/](http://trick77.com/2010/10/08/fritzbox-7390-schweiz -latest-firmware-install-lab-versions/)

You can find more here:

http://www.rainerullrich.de/ruKernelTool.html

Kind regards

timmy

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Hello everyone!

I also flashed my Fritzbox 3790CH (analog connection) with the German laboratory version.86 and the ruKernelTool.

Works without any problems if you follow the instructions exactly!

My problem with temporary (estimated 4-5 times a day) connection interruptions and pixel formation on the Swisscom TV still persists:smileysad: Anyone have similar problems? I didn’t have that with the new Centro Grande…

Very best regards

Christian

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My problem with intermittent (estimated 4-5 times a day) connection interruptions and pixel formation on Swisscom TV still persists, does anyone have similar problems? I didn’t have that with the new Centro Grande…

Interesting information, so far only one positive result has been posted in most threads with the Fritz Box,

Now the question is whether others also have problems with Swisscom TV in connection with the Fritz Box.

How is the TV box connected to the Fritz box?

Walter

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