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@Vifreuthau72 wrote:
So with a 5G capable device (at least with 5G wide) I have zero advantage over 4G because I still share the entire bandwidth with all the other 4G (and 3G) users.
You got it; This is exactly the reason why, in practice, even very fast wireless networks suffer massive collapse under the onslaught of many users, especially during peak times, while cable or fiber optic-based connections only lose performance much later (namely when the upstream network components reach the limit).
Not that I’m against 5G or the further development of wireless network standards in general: the modern protocols use the available frequencies much more efficiently than the older ones and thus allow a “good” experience for more users at the same time. (Flashback: “Natel A” only allowed *one* active telephone conversation at any time - we’ve come a long way there!)
However, it is wrong to expect the technically possible maximum throughput to be “set” at all times. In this respect, hardware connections still have an advantage, even if on paper their theoretical maximum throughput may lag behind modern wireless networks.
The population’s “hunger for data” is increasing faster than the expansion of networks. The objections against 5G are partly responsible for the situation.
In individual cases, it is also very possible that there is a problem with the transmission system at your receiving location. Therefore the following questions:
- Have you ever tested with another device in the same location?
- What is the speed like at 3:00 a.m. when you stand within sight of the transmitter (note: performance can be poor directly under the transmission tower)
If you have poor speed values with various devices even at 3:00 a.m. when there is good visibility of the transmitter, you must open a fault ticket (0800 800 800).
@Vifreuthau72 wrote:
Ultimately, there would be fewer 4G devices under these circumstances and so the network should at least be less loaded there 🙂
Every year the amount of data that customers use via the Swisscom mobile network doubles.
Source: [https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/news/2015/10/20151008-MM-Swisscom-ruestet-ihr-Mobilfunknetz-fuer-die-Zukunft.html] (https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/news/2015/10/20151008-MM-Swisscom-ruestet-ihr-Mobilfunknetz-fuer-die-Zukunft.html)
And here are some nice daily curves:
The peak load in the Swisscom mobile network is usually reached after 7:00 p.m….
@Vifreuthau72 I also read in the Apple software beta program that ‘real 5G’ (now not dependent on the expansion structure) should only be activated with an upcoming update!
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DominikThe answer has already been given:
…to do with the load on the antenna or the network, since everyone is surfing and watching TV via a 4G router…
If the upload is significantly faster than the download and the packet turnaround times (RTT) are significantly > 30 milliseconds, the case is clear -> network overload!
@Vifreuthau72 wrote:
I am now the owner of an iPhone 12 and thought to myself that it should be a lot faster now. Unfortunately, far from it.
Unfortunately, you are rarely alone in Switzerland. And many other Swiss people with purchasing power also had the latest super-duper iPhone under the Christmas tree for Christmas…
And when you study the Bakom radio transmitter map, you will easily see that the green dots (mobile radio antennas with 5G radiation) are extremely rare in the “Bettmeralp” region. The reason for this has already been provided by POGO 1104.
https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=funksender
Please see the information below:
[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/5G-funktioniert-nicht-proper-15x-langsamer-als-4G/m-p/620471#M7574] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/5G-funktioniert-nicht-proper-15x-langsamer-als-4G/m-p/620471#M7574)
before you place false expectations on current 5G reception.
@Vifreuthau72 wrote:
….Can someone try to explain to me why this is the case? I actually already thought to myself: buy a 5G router and never have any more problems with the internet in the holiday apartment. But that doesn’t seem to be the case.
You can thank the opponents of 5G expansion.
Most current 5G antennas are 5G wide antennas, a kind of pimped-up 4G that does not require a building permit and often provides worse bandwidth than 4G.
The real 5G+ with all its advantages is just being hindered…
….keep on rockin' 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
