@Digroppeut86 @All I can say is: Good luck.

There are so many email providers on the market. You can also simply switch.

… switch and hope that the web mail with the new provider remains ad-free for as long as possible.

I would like to speak out again with my favorite; Infomaniak-Mail is my personal favorite functionally and visually. Free email address and integration of other emails included!

In addition, features such as the integration of kDrive and your own domain are free of charge!

Since I upgraded my old MacBook to ChromeOS Flex, I can generally recommend G-Mail, despite the “data protection concerns”.

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@DomiP wrote:

I would like to speak out again with my favorite; Infomaniak-Mail is my personal favorite functionally and visually. Free email address and integration of other emails included!

Additionally, features such as the integration of kDrive and your own domain are free of charge!

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The only thing that is free is the email address with [user-id][at]lk.me. With your own domain it is a paid offer there.

If you don’t have any concerns about entrusting your emails to US companies, you can get an email address with gmail.com, icloud.com, outlook.com, etc.

Glotzologist

I think - many customers don’t want to lose the Bluewin address they’ve used for >10-20 years and don’t want to switch to another mail provider. So I think this is only an option for very few people.

So the following options remain:

- Live with advertising (free)

- Use a local mail program instead of webmail (free and no advertising and other advantages)

- Pay CHF 1.90 / month (no more advertising in webmail) and 3x more storage for the mailbox than before

Of course @Glotzologe only with Bluewin is only the at-bluewin-ch address free. Infomaniak also offers email, calendar, contacts and more in one suite 😉

And as far as US companies are concerned, the question is of course to what extent data from Swiss providers doesn’t also flow to America. The operating systems are usually all from the US and A.

@POGO 1104 the fourth variant (browser with ad blocker) now also works, including removing the oversized advertising banner 😉

@kaetho

… including the risk of undesirable side effects.

Do they exist? Today, ad blockers can be applied specifically to individual elements on a specific website.

Anyone who can set this up (it doesn’t take much) will also be able to avoid (or deal with) these “undesirable side effects”.

Do these unwanted side effects even exist? Or is this simply polemic and fear-mongering? So far I don’t know any, or I’m not aware of it…

@kaetho

After I had previously had negative experiences with such blockers, I tried again with different blockers 2 or 3 years ago:

After the website operator made changes to the advertising, the advertising or at least a white space was there again, or the website was then blocked completely or desired pop-up windows or functions of the website were suppressed. Depending on the browser upgrade, the plug-in was no longer compatible and had to be updated. The performance of the browser also suffered in some cases. All in all, I had more trouble and disadvantages than advantages.

Based on my experiences, I therefore advise against using such blockers. But it is quite possible that there will be much better experiences with it.

Perfect

Hello Bluewin! That’s not a good idea. You can hardly read the emails anymore. Lots of space for advertising that doesn’t even exist. This is annoying and encourages you to subscribe to competitor products, including mobile phones and the Internet. I’m about to do this. Unfortunately. After many years at Swisscom.

@Hezavio67 Yes, that’s annoying, but there are ways to get around it, e.g. a subscription for 1.90 CHF/month, or installing an email program like Thunderbird or Outlook, there are no advertising.

Yes, that’s right. But why should you pay for something when you can have it for free, and with an app that runs on all devices? In addition, if you leave Swisscom for any reason, BLUEWIN will no longer work and you will have to laboriously and immediately change all your accounts.

I switched to PROTONMAIL and am very satisfied. It is also a Swiss product.

I pay over 270 CHF per month to Swisscom and they want money from me so that I can read my emails ad-free. What a marketing idea!

@Hezavio67 I can understand it, I also find the 1.90 a bit petty if you pay enough for the subscription. On the other hand, there are e-mail programs that are considerably more comfortable and user-friendly than Bluewin Webmail, and on which you can easily use Bluewin mail.

By the way, it is not true that Bluewin mail no longer works if you leave Swisscom, but you have to create a separate free account and then assign the desired addresses, which is relatively easy (see scenario 3 in the link). Then of course you also have advertising

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail-Apps-Wissensbox/So-verwaltest-du-deine-Bluewin-E-Mail-Address/ta-p/646133] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail-Apps-Wissensbox/So-verwaltest-du-deine-Bluewin-E-Mail-Address/ta-p/646133)

@Hezavio67 Proton is good, but I personally think ik.me is a bit better. Also a CH service, but more integrations and features.

But what should also be possible is to link the Bluewin mailbox via the web, for example in Gmail: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/21289?hl=de&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop So every email within Gmail will be sent to you without advertising displayed. On top of that there is a usable design with search etc.

Thank you very much - I will get help with the implementation!

I just don’t understand why you have to look at the emails in the browser.

This is much more convenient with apps (for PC Outlook, Windows Mail, mail apps for cell phones/tablets).

Of course you have to set it up once (IMAP), but some people probably fail.

@PeterA1

I don’t understand it either. In my family, my wife, daughter and son also use webmail on the PC despite having Outlook and only use the app on their smartphones. The reason I keep hearing:

“So I don’t have to start a program because the browser is always open anyway. That’s easier, faster, more convenient.”