User icons - how should they be understood?

  • Hello everyone,

    I’ve noticed for a while that in addition to a “rank” you also get these rank icons.

    But I’ve been wondering for a long time, what do they mean? Why are there different ranks like Expert and Contributor with one or two lines at the top and bottom or through the middle?

    No nice day.

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    Dominik

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      @DomiP

      here you will find a short description of the ranking mechanism. But you’ve probably already found that. I can’t find anything else at the moment. However, the gradation is relative. fine, and because you are currently very active here in the forum, “the icons are constantly changing”.

      But maybe @ThomasS can shed some more light on this.

      Greetings, Thomas

    @Chips That’s exactly what I don’t understand - I mean the ranks are all well and good - it’s actually just about being able to help others.

    But I’ve probably been at the “Expert” rank for a week or two now and this icon keeps changing but what does that mean? Yours also changed from time to time…

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    Dominik

    @DomiP

    here you will find a short description of the ranking mechanism. But you’ve probably already found that. I can’t find anything else at the moment. However, the gradation is relative. fine, and because you are currently very active here in the forum, “the icons are constantly changing”.

    But maybe @ThomasS can shed some more light on this.

    Greetings, Thomas

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    @Chips

    Exciting, there were things I’ve never seen before…

    Thank you for the explanation. Then in this case the icon is a kind of sublevel of the levels?

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    Dominik

    I could say more about it, but since the badge system is currently being revised, it’s actually not worth it. It will soon be clearer and more understandable.

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    Liebe Grüsse / Salut et à bientôt / Ciao e a presto / Cheers, see you soon!
    ThomasS

    I still hope that the badges, ranks and likes will finally be removed without replacement.

    The aim of the forum should be help and the exchange of information and not self-congratulation.

    Or are there actually grown people who like such rankings, titles and status symbols?

    There’s nothing wrong with forming specific user groups “internally” for product testing (e.g. Super-Friendly or D30), but you don’t have to blatantly convey this to the outside world.

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    @hed I agree with you, but it is certainly the case that many, especially the contributors, are motivated by this… I think without this function there will be a lot less users here, the answers.

    If one were to really tackle further development, the “karma” concept would certainly also be exciting: https://www.reddit.com/r/help/wiki/faq#wiki_how_does_karma_work. 3F

    But actually it’s all as meaningless as likes on Facebook…

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    Dominik

    @hed

    Hello hed, you speak from my soul 😋

    I’ve only been on this forum for a few days because I was looking for help with tricky technical problems. I had to answer several times because the tips only helped me to a limited extent… and I was already overwhelmed with likes, badges and rankings that took up precious time solving the problem 😫

    After the technical Swisscom support was difficult to get going (in the end a great supporter helped me find a solution), I became nervous and let out my frustration several times… which led to more likes and badges 😠

    I applied to be a tester for the new Kundencenter to remedy this nonsense…

    I’ve also suggested putting the badges at the top of the “super ranker” header so they can bask in them. But apparently ego care has become so important today that Facebook, TripAdvisor etc. can make huge money from it…

    But now there are two of us who would rather focus on help and exchanging information (and there are more and more every hour, sang Udo Lindenberg).

    The constructive reaction from ThomasS (Community Manager) certainly gives me hope 😎

    So: don’t give up!

    Greetings from Graubünden, Erhard

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    @eho-ems

    I hope Udo Lindenberg is right…

    Another more nuanced comment about the likes:

    I think the fact that you can give likes directly to the posts is very useful in the sense of “I agree with the post”. I often use this to add weight to a post, not to praise the author.

    BUT

    If you can give a like as approval of a post, you also need a dislike in order to indicate, if necessary, a negative attitude towards the article (and not antipathy towards the author).

    However, for both (approval and rejection) there should be no summation and ranking because that would refer to the author and that is exactly what is not needed.

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    @hed

    @ThomasS z.K.

    Yes, that’s a precise suggestion that I immediately gave my first like in approval of the post 😋

    From now on I will also use likes. - But you are right:

    > If ThomasS and the other forum managers don’t make it VERY CLEAR to the community that likes refer to the content of the post and not to the author, it will continue to be misused for ego cultivation (as is the case with anti-social media). exploit lucratively)…

    > If the forum managers then introduce the Unlike, the whole thing will become even clearer. But here too, the forum must make it clear that the unlike ONLY refers to the content of the post 😏

    > Deleting the summation/ranking based on likes/unlikes will hopefully help the forum to be more quality and factual.

    AND: a clearly demarcated “chat corner” declutters the technical forum without taking away the joy of chatting…

    @Thomas

    Can you please book these two posts as test posts for the new Kundencenter?

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    There are also many visitors in the community who distribute “likes” to users who highlight the negative aspects of Swisscom here in the community, one can question whether that is a good thing.

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    @eho-ems wrote:

    @Thomas

    Can you please book these two posts as test posts for the new Kundencenter?


    For what reason? The inputs are exciting, but have nothing to do with Swisscom’s Kundencenter.

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    ThomasS

    My opinion on the likes and dislikes (or e.g. thumbs up and speed cameras):

    Basically, likes are always flatterers or ego boosters, regardless of whether the approval relates to the post or to the author of the post. How this is interpreted is decided only by the person whose post receives a like. Advice that you should only like the content of the post and not the author are therefore pointless.

    Exactly the same applies to dislikes (or flashers). But “power” is very quickly exercised by fellow readers and it is in nature that negative reviews are quickly taken personally.

    For this reason, I am in favor of leaving the story as it is. We as posters think a little more carefully about what we like, why we like and when we like and not just randomly and wildly like…

    Thomas

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      kaetho I completely agree with you.

      However, I think it’s less about like and dislike (directly with your thumbs) but more about upvotes and downvotes like on StackExchange (especially Stackoverflow).

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      One of the biggest goals of upvotes/downvotes is to determine the position of the answer. Which of course doesn’t work so well with the community and a complete restructuring would be necessary, as discussions would then be practically impossible.

      However, I think that once the thumb is removed, people no longer act the same way as your “flatterers” or “ego carers”.

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      Dominik

      6 days later

      For the sake of completeness:

      All information about the new reward system and therefore also the user icons can be found here: [New reward system in the community!](https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Off-Topic/Neues-Belohnungsystem-in-der-Community /m-p/603337#U603337)

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      Liebe Grüsse / Salut et à bientôt / Ciao e a presto / Cheers, see you soon!
      ThomasS