Network expansion card

I submit to the community a question regarding the information given on the interactive Swisscom network extension map: https://www.swisscom.ch/fr/about/entreprise/portrait/reseau/carte-extension-reseau-fibre .html#faq Indeed for my municipality which is in extension in FTTB/FTTS and therefore in principle limited to 500Mb/s it is announced that within the framework of this extension the possible speeds would extend from 80 Mb/s to 1 Gb/s… Question: Swisscom has Is it already planned that the network based on FTTB/FTTS technology in G.Fast can go up to 1 Gb/s in 2019? Or is it offered to the customer to switch to FTTH? Based on the exchanges I have already had with Swisscom, I would opt for the first option, which would be a good surprise; although still not allowing real competition to work. What do you think?

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I am partially answering myself because after research it appears that service profile no. 800 on VDSL line with G-Fast is already available and allows in full-flex mode speeds of up to 1Gb/s up and down. So technically speaking these speeds have already been planned, now the rest will depend on the generation of microCAN (equipment converting optical fiber into VDSL signals on copper line) installed and the length of the line to the accommodation. We can suspect that Swisscom is preparing a “small” counter-offensive against Salt for next year, independently of the announcement of an increase in speeds planned for October (the 1st for inOne S and the 17th for inOne M). By extrapolating we can imagine that the inOne L allows 1Gb/s on copper line… To be continued.

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Salt Fiber Internet and TV only work if you have fiber (and the right one) in your living room, otherwise it’s ruined. Salt clearly doesn’t want to complicate life like other operators, it’s fiber or nothing.

So I don’t see what “little” offensive is hidden there…?

More concretely, if Swisscom announces speeds between 80 mbit/s and 1 gbit/s it is for the cases of new buildings only connected to FTTH if there are more than 40 homes at a time.

Otherwise it will be max 500, the giga on copper pair is the XG-Fast standard, not yet industrialized or adapted, from the laboratory…

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the mention of “small” counter offensive was only there as a joke because Swisscom holds the market by the c… by only deploying FTTB/S it keeps control of the last piece of copper so no competition and they can do what they want.

Concerning the possibility of obtaining 1 Gb/s in G.Fast it is possible on extremely short lines <100m and a Swisscom service profile exists in the documentation with the status “available” (not to be confused with “marketable ”).

I raised the inconsistency of the extension card because my town (1254 Jussy) is in the process of FTTB/S extension (there will be no FTTH) and the speeds will be a maximum of 500/120 Mb/s and it’s officially announced. The site announces 80 Mb/s to 1 Gb/s hence my question, now if indeed it is identical generic information for all municipalities no problem.

Concerning XG.Fast, Swisscom is testing with Huawei what they call NG.Fast and which could reach 5 Gb/s with 2 copper pairs.

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Totally agree zorglub:thumbs_up:

And it’s not just Swisscom that holds the market, in the world of telenetworks it’s worse, because Swisscom at least “rents” its network to competitors like Sunrise…, while the cable operators live in a world 100% airtight.

Personally, I do not have a connection to the Swisscom network (physico-technical problem = universal service nothing more), so I am left with the telenetwork, it is not dramatic in itself, although for an aficionado (not my case) sport is problematic without Téléclub!

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    2 months later

    Good morning,

    the map has changed since yesterday the error was displayed for the situation on November 12. Now the displayed status is correct; but still disappointing that municipalities deployed in 2018 in FTTS/FTTB technology are doing so with equipment from 4 years ago not allowing more than 100/25 Mb/s.

    Thanks to your map we can now see very clearly the segregation between rural and working-class municipalities (Puplinges, Avully, Cartigny,…) and municipalities with wealthier profiles (Cologny, Vandoeuvres,…): 100/25 for the campaign, 500/100 for the wealthiest (greater potential to subscribe to Internet L).

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