Does this additional bell work with IP?

  • This beautiful bell still hangs in an old house, unfortunately without a type designation (see pictures).

    She has been calling reliably for decades from the stable, attic, cellar to the neighborhood.

    Now the switch to IP telephony is coming up.

    Has anyone ever connected this bell to a standard Internet Box?

    Does it work, maybe even half as loudly?

    Can I just try it out without risk or could something break in the box?

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    • Thank you Walter and compa for your helpful answers.

      In the meantime it has been changed to Anschluss and I just gave it a try

      (Internetbox light with energy recovery).

      The big old bell rings easily at full volume.

      I also connected the previous rotary dial telephone.

      This too rings like in the old days and calls can be answered.

      The only thing that no longer works, of course, is the Sodeco Teletaxe meter.

      This is probably missing the counting pulses.

      Dear Swisscom, old and new technology don’t seem to get along so badly.

      Why don’t you just do a test with common devices that you have installed in households for decades.

      A simple compatibility list would prevent a lot of uncertainty.

    @spacenavigator

    This is an old additional telephone bell that you occasionally find with senior citizens. There are various other models with the same function.

    If desired, they can continue to work. In recent years I have installed various IP conversions with such bells.

    Yesterday I installed an IP conversion for a farmer with a bell (different model), which should still work.

    The customer has an Internet Box Light.

    The bell was connected to a 1970 model NS rotary dial wall telephone. This telephone now only works for incoming calls, but the additional bell that is connected to it also works.

    There is also a current analog telephone so that incoming and outgoing calls work as usual.

    For this customer the changeover was easy, I just had to move a few wires. (It’s not always like that)

    If you don’t want to deal with this yourself, have the changeover carried out by a Swisscom technician or an electrical specialist store.

    Swisscom will probably tell you on the phone or in the shop that the old additional bells no longer work with ALL IP. Only the older technicians should be familiar with it.

    However, you only know whether it is possible and with what effort after you have seen the thing on site.

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    @WalterB

    The relay variant is OK, so you can make any old additional bell work. But that, together with the necessary installation, is also the most expensive option.

    I haven’t used additional relays for many years.

    I also got most of the additional bells working again with IP.

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    @compa wrote:

    The relay variant is OK, so you can make any old additional bell work. But that, together with the necessary installation, is also the most expensive option.

    I haven’t used additional relays for many years.

    I got most of the additional bells working again with IP.


    But this old bell still has a very high power requirement. I’m a little concerned about whether that’s a good thing with a direct Anschluss on the Internet box.

    I would only connect such a thing via an additional relay to be on the safe side.

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    Thank you Walter and compa for your helpful answers.

    In the meantime it has been changed to Anschluss and I just gave it a try

    (Internetbox light with energy recovery).

    The big old bell rings easily at full volume.

    I also connected the previous rotary dial telephone.

    This too rings like in the old days and calls can be answered.

    The only thing that no longer works, of course, is the Sodeco Teletaxe meter.

    This is probably missing the counting pulses.

    Dear Swisscom, old and new technology don’t seem to get along so badly.

    Why don’t you just do a test with common devices that you have installed in households for decades.

    A simple compatibility list would prevent a lot of uncertainty.

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    @spacenavigator

    Thanks for the feedback, I’m glad I could help.

    Today again, I brought an old outdoor bell from a farmer’s home back to life. This time with an Internet Box Standard.

    The customer told me that if the bell didn’t work again, he no longer wanted a landline Anschluss from Swisscom.

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    @Ctrl+Alt+Del

    Hello and welcome to the forum.

    If you are referring to my post from yesterday, the outside bell in a farmer’s forelock is a so-called FSI moister model, which can be installed outdoors and also in wet rooms.

    When it comes to lightning and danger, anyone who installs something like this must be familiar with the regulations and standards. For example, I would never install an outside bell on/near the lightning protection system and its conductors in a house.

    Here is the low current regulation from the federal government:

    https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classified-compilation/19940080/index.html

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