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@Lindi91 wrote:

Maybe I also connected the LAN cable to the wrong places on the modem. Do I have to connect it to one of the 4 Ethernet labels on the modem and then to connection 1 in the box or to the Internet slot on the modem and then to Anschluss 1?

I only have 1 thin LAN cable supplied which is 10 meters long and a 5 meter long LAN cable which was supplied with the TV, but this should be the same. Since I use the TV-Box via WiFi, I theoretically have this cable left over. Otherwise, I still have normal LAN cables (not the flat ones) from the old apartment. Do these actually work?

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If you have round 8-pin LAN cables, they would work normally, it says CAT 5 etc.

With the Internet box, it doesn’t matter which of the yellow LAN ports is used, what is important is that the slot in the cupboard is connected to the correct slot at the top of the apartment.

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@Lindi91 wrote:
All clear, maybe the cable is actually defective due to a slight bend in the box, I can’t explain it much else. Could you tell me briefly how exactly I have to connect the modem to the 4 ports above? I can’t seem to find any proper instructions for this. Thanks in advance

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Normally you can’t do much wrong, in the picture below I have indicated a yellow line, this is where the LAN connection cable comes in, which is then plugged into slot 1 in the cupboard and the PC would then have to be connected to the corresponding PC slot at the top of the apartment via a LAN cable be connected and then it should work normally.

It is important that the LAN socket at the top of the apartment matches the bottom of the cupboard.

Firstly: the router does not belong in a metal box. This is an absolute aberration.

Secondly: the competent electricians, whose operations are organized in the VSEI, have good offers to convert it quickly. The router usually belongs centrally in the house, usually in the living room 🙂

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@Lindi91 wrote:

Thanks, I’ve now checked because it’s a bit tedious to photograph it. There are definitely exactly these 8 wires, so that should be 100% correct. What next 😛?

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In the photo there are 4 RJ45 ports and 2 LAN cables. 99.99% of the time this is one of those multimedia installations where 4 wires are connected per Anschluss.

The only clean solution here is to connect all 8 wires of the cable on both sides to just one RJ45-Anschluss yourself or through an electrician.

As a temporary solution, you could also try manually setting the PC’s driver settings to 100Mbit/s full duplex:

Success is not guaranteed, but it’s worth a try.

The socket is only connected with 2 pairs of wires. That’s why only 100Mb/s is possible.

@Lindi91 it’s best to have it measured with a measuring device. Pin assignment: Socket data (PC): 1,2,3,6 Telephony: 4,5,7,8 on the connection socket ([See here](http://www.heise.de/ct/hotline/telefon-an -the-LAN-socket-320620.html)). The rack is fully occupied??? Can’t tell exactly. In order to have a sensible installation, pull a second Cat 6 Ethernet cable to each of the sockets and rack.

You still have free ports for the R+M modules. If you want to do it yourself, I can get you the materials.

I would unsubscribe from the Swisscom technician.

The installation is fine. If he determines this, he would have to charge you the stake. I hope he does this too.

The IT and telephone installation is also split over a cable.

If you can do this, it has the disadvantage that only Fast Ethernet is available. The advantage is that a telephone Anschluss would also be possible directly in every room. There are also variants where, in such a case, a fully occupied UKV line is simply pulled. This is an entrepreneurial option that I prefer.

Anyway, that’s the market! This is also a recognized rule of technology in 2016, published by the umbrella associations VSEI and electrosuisse with the collaboration of Swisscom and Swisscable Lobby.

But what is the saddest thing is the new Swisscom routers themselves. These cannot negotiate the 4 wire connections (lol).

99.9% of all switches on the market can do this. This is also a market reality, even if others probably see it differently. That’s a FACT!

When it came to the hardware design of the Internet boxes, they probably used the cheapest Giga NIC they could find. You may also have chosen the slightly more expensive one because it is installed less often but has fewer functions, assuming that more expensive is a good thing. You can twist and turn it however you want. Only de facto Habashes could have made this decision. No idea about the market…

Contact your trusted electrician.

Variants are:

• Fiber extension if desired. Material directly from the wholesaler.
• Replace the link or the connections with full occupancy
• Intermediate a simple switch. E.g. Netgear GS105E
• Combination of several variants
• and many more, thanks to multimedia distributors everything is possible. Even the handling of Bschisscom’s dirty material!

If you have the appropriate activation tool, then yes.

Changing yourself is always a thing. Even if they are UKV links, the installation can lead to areas with 400V or 230V AC without FI protection. It would not be legally permitted to install something without an installation permit, even if you only “touched” the chess current area.

But here I don’t see any contact between the areas.

In this case you could just change the jack. With this R+M material you don’t even need any special tools 😉

Of course, with the consent of the owner or later dismantling when you move out.

Planners like this should just be *washed*
There were definitely Anschluss the eight wires and that’s it.
Everything else is stupid these days.

Yes, or the installer who installs it that way.

I wouldn’t be so sure whether work is always carried out exactly according to the performance position. Because we like to gamble because the builder or planner doesn’t get it.

You often see these installations carried out by the big players. So the yellow-black, orange, yellow, white-orange etc 🙂

Tip. It has a creator’s sticker on each mailing list. Should be like that, it is also a regulation.

In the future you could also post this here as a pillory hehe.

As a former electrician and now a project manager with customer contact working in a planning office, I am also of the opinion that all 4 wire pairs should always be connected. Unfortunately, it’s a fact that money often plays a bigger role than benefits. When R&M launched “Homewiring”, it pushed forward the system with core splitting, but unfortunately many planners still stuck with this technology.

For my part, I always recommend that builders fully connect the RJ45 connections.

When it comes to placing Swisscombox or other ISP hardware in the so-called multimedia box, the manufacturers (Hager, Legrand, Schneider Electric etc.) just made a mistake. I tell every sales representative of their company to finally develop a door made of plastic or come up with something.

With LWL, the transfer point in the apartment is really not ideal if it is behind the TV cabinet. Or should we plan all UKV links there too @Anonymous?

Documents are updated, training with the VSEI starts. A router does not belong in a multimedia box. On the contrary, we must now correct this undesirable development.

And I can already say that the next router will no longer fit in such a box.

then when will the internet box be replaced?

So this is how Swisscom comes up with the task of cleaning up all these incorrect installations?

Nothing would be said if Swisscom itself didn’t issue these guidelines:

[https://www.swisscom.ch/content/dam/swisscom/de/res/landline/telephone connection/manual_ftth_realization_DE.pdf](https://www.swisscom.ch/content/dam/ swisscom/de/res/landline/telephone connection/manual_ftth_realization_DE.pdf) Section 4.2 and 4.3

I would be happy to receive a corrigendum to this guideline, which was recently published in 2015…

Fortunately, sometimes there are other providers who supply routers that still fit into this distribution list. They probably know the difference between a router and a hub 🙂

@rene.borer At some point a new router always comes along 🙂 The world keeps turning.