@Weunteuckau47

The CellMapper may help you [Map](https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=228&MNC=1&type=LTE&latitude=46.1433106416647&longitude=8.80421565730321&zoom=13.88627207 7404199&showTowers=true&showIcons=true&showTowerLabels=true&clusterEnabled=true&tilesEnabled=true&showOrphans=false&showNoFrequencyO nly=false&showFrequencyOnly=false&showBandwidthOnly=false&DateFilterType=Last&showHex=false&showVerifiedOnly=false&showUnverifiedOnl y=false&showLTECAOnly=false&showENDCOnly=false&showBand=0&showSectorColours=true&mapType=roadmap&darkMode=false&imperialUnits=false) something. Here you can view the different providers and technologies.

Here is the antenna diagram of the Swisscom antenna on the street:

Of course, this antenna transmits further than these blue lines. But you can clearly see that this antenna is sending in the direction of the holiday home.

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@Weunteuckau47 wrote:

….Perhaps a cheaper test with Wingo would be worthwhile…

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You can give it to yourself if you have already tested it with a Swisscom SIM.

As long as the 1st Fresnel zone does not reach the water surface and the lake is not too wide, mobile phone coverage should come from the opposite bank. There is practically always a line of sight to a cell phone antenna on the other side of the lake. And line of sight is the be-all and end-all for very good cell phone reception!

https://circuitdesign.de/technical_tools/fresnel-zone/

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnelzone

According to the Cellmapper map, Sunrise mobile phone coverage comes from this “swimming pool area” between S. Nazzaro and Gerra from the ARA/IDA in the Maggia Delta. This Sunrise cell phone antenna is located east of the Maggia. The network coverage of “Cell 5” (1800 MHz) extends from Riva (east of Gerra) to almost the Bellavista campsite (west of Vira).

[https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=228&MNC=2&type=LTE&latitude=46.134&longitude=8.8061&zoom=13](https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=228&MNC=2&type=LTE&latitude= 46.134&longitude=8.8061&zoom=13)

According to the Cellmapper map, Swisscom mobile phone coverage from this “swimming pool area” between Gerra and S. Nazzaro also comes from the ARA/IDA in the Maggia Delta. This Swisscom mobile radio antenna is located east of the Maggia. The network coverage of “Cell 5” (1800 MHz) extends from the village center of Gerra to the village center of S. Nazzaro.

[https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=228&MNC=1&type=LTE&latitude=46.134&longitude=8.8061&zoom=13](https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=228&MNC=1&type=LTE&latitude= 46.134&longitude=8.8061&zoom=13)

If there is a line of sight to a mobile phone antenna, using a 5G-capable multi-band antenna now makes perfect sense. Make sure that the cellular antenna supports at least 2×2 MIMO (cross-polarized) and Band 28 (700 MHz) AND Band 20 (800 MHz) AND Band 3 (1800 MHz) AND Band 78 (3400 - 3800 MHz).

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilfunkfrequencies_in_der_Switzerland

When installing, make sure that the new mobile phone antenna has an undisturbed line of sight to the Swisscom or Sunrise mobile phone antenna!

The more mobile frequency bands the mobile phone antenna supports, the faster the Internet connection will be. Modern cellular routers and modern mobile devices combine multiple cellular frequency bands via carrier aggregation (CA) and send and receive simultaneously on multiple cellular frequency bands. The more bandwidth the cell phone can bundle, the faster the Internet connection is via the cell phone network.

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/Wann-startet-der-Wirkbetrieb-von-5G-SA-bei-Swisscom/m-p/691772#M9747] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/Wann-startet-der-Wirkbetrieb-von-5G-SA-bei-Swisscom/m-p/691772#M9747)

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/5G-in-Liechtenstein/m-p/772675#M12457](https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/5G-in-Liechtenstein/m-p/ 772675#M12457)

In general, the information should be under:

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/4G-VoLTE-telefonieren-mit-externer-antenna-oder-analogem-telefon/m-p/638022](https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/ Mobile/4G-VoLTE-telephoning-with-external-antenna-or-analog-phone/m-p/638022)

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/Abschaltung-Funkantenne-Oberr%C3%BCti-5647/m-p/798462#M13629] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/Abschaltung-Funkantenne-Oberr%C3%BCti-5647/m-p/798462#M13629)

be taken into account.

The cellular signal (RSRP) received by this cellular antenna is strong enough for a fast Internet connection. The RSRQ value is not in the green zone, but this can be explained by the fact that there is a line of sight to numerous other cell phone antennas at this elevated location. These other mobile phone antennas interfere with the reception of the desired signal (interference => I). But I wouldn’t worry too much about the poor RSRQ and SINR values… Just buy, install and test!

The slow data transfer rates measured with the Sunrise SIM card can be easily explained: Sunrise throttles the Internet connection via the mobile network when a mobile router is used (here Mikrotik wAP 4G kit). See the article by “theleftfoot” on December 4th, 2023 at:

[https://community.sunrise.ch/d/32011-sunrise-business-netzbedarf-laesst-stark-zu-wuenschen-uebrig/35](https://community.sunrise.ch/d/32011-sunrise- business-mains-supply-leaves-strong-to-be-desirable/35)

and here post number 8.

The performance of the Sunrise network varies greatly depending on the device and location (overloaded or not).

The difference between my Wingo sim card and using the Sunrise sim card in the mobile router is WORLDS!

With Wingo I usually have over 100MBit download on the iPhone with 4G.

I think you should test this with a prepaid Wingo or Swisscom sim and I think you’ll be amazed.

Dosc

Edit: If you’re still a bit price-sensitive, you can do the same test with a Salt SIM card and then decide.

You can dispose of a router without a CA.

There is also an antenna at the top of the slope, where FM and DAB+ are also broadcast, which can be seen clearly from the street.

But I’m not sure who sends everything there, I think Swisscom and Salt.

To try it out, it’s best to buy a Swisscom prepaid and activate the 24h Speed+ option.

Multi-device options are additional SIM card(s) for an existing mobile phone subscription.

@Weunteuckau47
Digital Republic on the Sunrise network.

I would advise against the monoband antenna, as one band alone rarely offers enough bandwidth.
The other linked antenna looks almost too good for its size. Such a small antenna can’t actually have that much gain.
Ideal for such applications are LPDA, which has the appropriate bandwidth and gain, e.g. two of these:
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It is also important to have the shortest possible coax with low losses, otherwise this will eat away at the antenna gain.
And then of course a router that can serve multiple bands at the same time, i.e. at least LTE Category 8.

In order to reduce the interference signal component (I), a mobile phone antenna with a very small opening angle should be used in the holiday home. Antennas with a very small opening angle can be seen in the data sheet by the very large antenna gain (dBi). Antennas with a very small opening angle are referred to below as directional antennas.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richtantenne

The condition for using a directional antenna is unrestricted line of sight to the Swisscom or Sunrise mobile phone antenna => 1. Fresnel zone free of any obstacles!

When installing the directional antenna, ensure that the antenna is correctly and very precisely aligned with the Swisscom/Sunrise mobile radio antenna. A misalignment of just a few degrees can cause a massive drop in the achievable data transfer rate! The alignment must be as precise as with a pair of binoculars!

Elongated directional antennas such as the Yagi and LPDA antennas “whistle” in storm winds and look ugly.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithmic-periodic_antenna

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagi-Uda-Antenne

Modern panel or flat antennas do not have these disadvantages.

I recommend taking a look at this LTE antenna guide:

https://www.lte-provider.info/lte-hardware/antenne.php

Weunteuckau47

Please check whether you have a line of sight to this antenna (high masts also have VHF and DAB+ transmitting antennas).

Salt (see below) and Swisscom send from there.