yes it has to go back to the past!!!!

@Glotzologe If you have Swisscom Internet, you can “access” the multicast streams directly, e.g. via VLC, and thus watch many channels for free, see e.g. https://github.com/iptv-ch/iptv -ch.github.io

As far as I know, this works even if you don’t have a Swisscom TV subscription

For people who just want live TV it’s a good option. When I have time I’ll make something with a mini PC (I still have a lot of ThinkCenter M900 lying around) and OpenELEC or something like that, a self-made Blue TV box so to speak. You can certainly pull in EPG information somehow and you can also do live pauses and recordings if you have enough memory in your PC.

However, replay will be difficult

Why do you want to tinker with a new blue TV minimum offer?

The free live TV offer in Switzerland has been around for a long time and is called Teleboy Live 🙂

It also runs without a subscription and without any internet provider dependencies 🙂

@Werner The Teleboy free offer is right advertising, I find 4 advertisements of 15 seconds each annoying. Adblockers recognize them, you have to deactivate them otherwise nothing works. There’s enough advertising on TV now, so I don’t need any more

@NilsL

I don’t mean the “normal” Teleboy app without a paid subscription, but the additional Teleboy Live app, which is basically available for free.

It has no advertising at all and looks like this:

If you want to know more about it, you just have to google Teleboy Live.

@Werner

The residents of the “retirement home” want to have a good picture on their TV and not a lot of advertising, the problem now is that the subscription for CHF 5 is no longer available and something equivalent has to be found.

Bravo Werner, thank you very much

@Werner Do you mean this app that is only available in the Playstore and Appstore (not as a website for the PC)?

But it also says “contains advertising”. But I didn’t download it, so maybe it’s ad-free after all

As a real alternative to a Blue TV subscription, it would have to be somehow easily available on the “big screen”, for example through a PC that you connect to the TV and via a Bluetooth remote control (you can even connect the Swisscom remote controls to a Windows PC and thus control VLC, for example)

I find it an absolute disgrace that I now have to shell out for an additional TV-Box instead of Fr. 5.- Fr. 9.90.

The old system of CHF 5 per box was fair and transparent.

Keep it up; Even a long-time customer (> 50 years old) gets frustrated once in a while…

@NilsL

Yes, that’s what I mean.

It can also be easily brought to the big screen via Airplay or Chromcast, but you just have to be aware that, as with the blue TV apps, you still get a good picture, but not the full high-resolution big screen picture quality receives in the streams.

But if you want really good big-screen TV quality on up to 5 devices at the same time, whether TVs, set-top boxes, tablets, PCs, without unnecessary customer restrictions, harassment or forced advertising, I would still choose the Teleboy paid subscription Install TV with a promotional discount lasting 20 years for CHF 11.90/month.

For example, it also runs perfectly on an Apple TV box and recently even on a Swisscom TV-Box 5, just not perfect yet 🙂

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@Glotzologe If you have Swisscom Internet, you can “access” the multicast streams directly, e.g. via VLC, and thus watch many channels for free, see e.g. https://github.com/iptv-ch/ iptv-ch.github.io

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The freaks with who knows how many pay-TV packages, need for replay and recordings, etc. can now be found here in the forum.

Remember, there are still TV viewers with minimal needs, including only live TV. Of course, there are also the TV programs that you grew up with and that were already available via the cable TV network around 20-40 years ago.

Fact: For the now considerable additional price, Swisscom includes functions in the “S” subscription that the TV viewers in question have no need for.

Super practical if you can continue to use the 10-key keyboard on the remote control of the TV or box to select the TV programs. So don’t start just any app…

Glotzologist

@Glotzologe Only pure live TV is completely free, you just need a device that can receive the IPTV streams. So Swisscom already has this free TV offer, in contrast to other providers like Sunrise/UPC who don’t provide anything without a TV subscription, no multicast streams and everything is now encrypted via cable and so requires a smart card on the TV

@Werner The Teleboy app on Apple TV runs without a subscription and without advertising, of course without recording and replay.
I had this for quite a long time before I subscribed to the offer for 11.90 again.

Well, then you would almost have to switch to Wingo TV if the promo was appropriate.

Important for older semesters is 1-fold, which works reliably with the “OneRemote” TV.

@NilsL or @kaetho What are your experiences with the current WingoTV? IR doesn’t work, can it be done via HDMI-CEC?

Dear Swisscom

I thought you wouldn’t do a subscription or price increase until the end of 2024?

This is what it says on your page:

[https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/news/2023/06/04-preissicherheit.html](https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/news/2023/06/04- price security.html)

What else could be there now?

@Freimpeifeur53 Read the last paragraph

@POGO 1104 OneRemote via IR does not (officially) exist (Wingo has another remote control and it doesn’t have an IR blaster)

HDMI-CEC has been working since TV firmware 8.X.X, you can switch the TV on automatically + select HDMI input and switch the TV off automatically

I have used this with HDMI-CEC for several customers, it works absolutely problem-free, even almost better than the IR OneRemote because it cannot happen that the TV and TV-Box are not synchronous, i.e. TV on and box off or vice versa

The only disadvantage is that the TV starts about 3 seconds late because the box doesn’t give the CEC command immediately. As long as the end user understands this and then doesn’t immediately press it again and switch the box off again, it’s not a big problem

This Multiroom Max is great!!! Do I have to buy a second home so that I can benefit from this subscription? We only have one additional device in the apartment (previously 5.00) and now we have to pay twice as much for the same thing. Dear Swisscom, you’ve outdone yourself once again. It’s probably time to find another provider!

@Anonymous and bye…