WPA3-Zwang Wingo?

  • Hello dear,

    had the honor of putting a Wingo internet connection into operation for the first time today. Everything went well so far.

    But when it came to other WLAN devices, I reached my limits: specifically, a current Roomba Combo from iRobot was having trouble setting it up. I then came across the information pretty quickly that these devices currently do not support WPA3. Now I first wanted to switch the WLAN to WPA2 only on the Wingo box (counterpart to the IB3). But where? It does not work?

    The workaround was to switch on the guest network permanently, which works with WPA2-only. The Roomba was then easily integrated into the guest WiFi. It’s probably better to banish IoT devices to the guest network anyway…

    But my question: Does WPA2-only with Wingo really only work on the guest network? Or have I overlooked something?

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    • @kaetho

      Unfortunately, you cannot change the WPA yourself with Wingo.

      As a customer of Wingo, I can’t even add a special character to the WiFi password, for example.

      Many functions are not open to Wingo software as they are to Swisscom unfortunately 😞

    @kaetho

    Unfortunately, you cannot change the WPA yourself with Wingo.

    As a customer of Wingo, I can’t even add a special character to the WiFi password, for example.

    Many functions are not open to Wingo software as they are to Swisscom unfortunately 😞

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    @kaetho

    I also remotely manage a relative’s Wingo installation and the router management options are actually limited via the normal contract GUI, but there are still the expert functions, which then call the router GUI directly:

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    Can’t try it yourself, but are you sure, which would be somewhat strange, that you can’t influence the WLAN encryption setting of a Wingo router directly in the router’s own GUI?

    Maybe also a question for “our” Wingo specialist @NilsL?

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      @Simi91

      You can only set up the WLAN using this function at the link below at Wingo.

      [https://www.wingo.ch/de/hilfe/faq/kann-ich-meine-wingo-internet-box-konfigurieren](https://www.wingo.ch/de/hilfe/faq/kann- I-configure-my-wingo-internet-box)

      You can easily configure your Wingo Internet box in your customer portal myWingo in the “My Internet connection” section.

      You can make the following settings, among others:

      • Customize the network name and password of your WLAN
      • Automatic or manual frequency range selection
      • WiFi channel change

      Don’t forget to save your changes by clicking “Save”.

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      @Simi91 @Werner

      That is correct

      For the WLAN settings, only channel, visibility, transmission power and WIFi 6 can be set up in the GUI

      Name and password can only be changed in MyWingo (with restrictions on the possible characters)

      WPA cannot be set at all, with an IB3 or IB4 it is always WPA2/WPA3 (that is problematic)

      With an IB2 it is always pure WPA2 (I think 🙂

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      Intentionally blocking functions of a router, which are absolutely necessary for the operability of all client devices to be connected, purely for marketing product differentiation reasons, is already very irritating to me.

      Presumably the technology at Swisscom doesn’t know what the marketing has done “wrong” again, because what does this conscious castration of operability (and not of optional comfort functions) achieve in practice:

      The customer either replaces the entire router, or at least buys an additional independent access point outside of Swisscom, which he will definitely not do, cancel his Wingo subscription and take out a blue subscription instead 🙂

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      Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom

      @“x”#234740That’s exactly how I see it and I think it’s a shame. If I have a customer’s device that has trouble with WPA3, I have to put an AP behind the Wingo router (just something really cheap from TpLink or something like that and only use the WLAN from that device for the problematic device, usually it’s a printer)

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        NilsL

        It’s just pure symptom relief, but for such special cases I always use the cheapest nano router from TP-Link for around 20 CHF:

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        Briefly switch to access point mode, configure additional WLAN and use the LAN and USB cable to hang it directly behind a router that needs to be “added”.

        Finally, add the actually unnecessary power supply to the hardware storage fund for other purposes 🙂

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        Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom

        @“x”#234740Exactly something like that

        However, I usually have enough old WiFi N APs lying around that I replace with customers, so I just keep using them, one less device in the electronic waste

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        Hello dear,

        Thanks to all the input that came. 👍

        My conclusion:

        - ok, I did everything right, didn’t miss anything 😉

        - Setting options for the Wingorouter are even fewer than the Swisscomrouter 😯

        - Devices that don’t support the WPA3 standard and/or have trouble with it are locked out of the home network by Wingo -> I can’t judge whether that’s good or bad.

        - If you still want (or have to) use WPA2-only with the Wingorouter, you can use the guest WiFi and you can set this up there.

        - I’m not currently adding any more CPE because it’s apparently also possible with the guest network and there’s a simple demarcation from the home network (in the sense of separating IoT devices).

        Greetings and thanks, Thomas

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        @kaetho

        Basically, the idea of ​​guest WiFi is a good one, but two things remain as obstacles:

        - Guest networks on Swisscom Internet boxes only cover the slower 2.4 GHz band, but if performance is not an issue, such as with IoT connections, then of course it’s still not a real problem

        - When integrating printers via WLAN (actually one of the most common problems in the whole “WPA2-only epidemic”), due to the lack of an intranet connection on the guest WLAN, you will notice that the printer does receive an IP address and, depending on the printer, does an external Internet connection, but you still won’t be able to print to it with clients from the “normal” WLAN, or at least you won’t be able to use WLAN-based functions such as Airprint at all.

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        @Werner

        Everything you wrote is correct.

        The setup in question has the printer on the LAN (as it should be).

        The iRobot vacuum cleaner connects to the cloud, as does the associated mobile phone app; After installation, communication with each other does not take place directly via WiFi, but via the cloud. After setting up, the cell phone can be returned to the home network and the vacuum cleaner remains in the guest WiFi.

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