@WalterB wrote:
You just have to install a normal timer between the power supply.
But as already mentioned it is not necessary.
But be careful man!
Don’t provoke an interruption every day, otherwise the system can assess this as a line problem and possibly reduce the speed to make the line more “stable”…..
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Regular manual restarts of the Internet box are not necessary at all and are not needed. The router is designed for continuous operation. If so, then maybe reboot once a month. Simply manually switch the router off and on again. But that’s not absolutely necessary if you don’t have any other problems.
I seem to remember that new information came up in another thread in a discussion with @Roger G that the Internet boxes now send a short “goodbye” to the Swisscom backbone when the power is turned off , and so Swisscom’s line stabilization measures can now really distinguish whether it was actually just a power cut or actually an interruption in the Internet connection.
This means that Internet boxes on copper cables would also be suitable for timers or power strips, which has never been a problem with Internet boxes on FTTH connections anyway.
If I remember it correctly, Roger’s statement was that the only remaining incorrect manipulation with regard to the network stabilization measures is if you simply interrupt the DSL cable while the Internet box is running.
To be on the safe side, perhaps @Roger G can briefly say something again about the current suitability of Internet boxes on copper connections for power strips and timers.
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Okay, thank you for the answers, unfortunately I’ve had a WLAN failure with the router every few weeks and then had to restart it manually. I thought I could automate that. I would still like continuous operation, it seems to vary slightly from case to case, but in this case I will probably continue to monitor it and report it later.
I thought to myself that that wasn’t a good solution with the timer, the IB certainly doesn’t like such an abrupt switch-off (I wouldn’t have it either 😆)…
So you would have to take a closer look at the problem with the WLAN interruption.
Is this WLAN device connected directly to the Internet box via WLAN or via a WLAN-Box?
N.B. I know some users who turn the Internet box off and on every evening using a power strip and have no problems.
But I wouldn’t do it myself.
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An interruption with the timer is no problem. All routers send a DG and the resync is not counted as a line error. But I wouldn’t do this between 00:00 and 06:00, because that’s when routers and network element upgrades are made. If such an off/on switch overlaps with this, it can destroy the router.
If so, you should only do this if you want to save electricity. If you have to reboot the router again and again because of something else, then there is a problem that needs to be solved.
Roger G.
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG, Product Manager Wireline Access
@TiRohn wrote:
The devices are connected to the WLAN-Box, but it then flashes red and I have to restart both devices (router and WLAN-Box) so that it works again… can I read any log from the WLAN-Box that could help me troubleshoot?
No, there is no connection log of WLAN connections.
The use of WLAN boxes as radio repeaters or media bridges will never be as stable and uninterrupted as LAN cables and of course always depends on the distances and “radio events” in your environment.
At what approximate distance from the Internet box have you set up your radio-connected WLAN-Box, and at what distance does it have to continue transmitting as a repeater, or are there only LAN cable-bound clients attached to the WLAN-Box?
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If you have not yet assigned a fixed IP address to WLAN-Box in the router GUI outside of the normal dynamically distributed DHCP range of the IB, you can try that again.
The background is that dynamic leases of IP addresses are renewed on the router every 24 hours, and this process could possibly go wrong, which would then cause the WLAN-Box to lose the IP address and thus also the connection.
However, it is not technically clear whether it actually makes a difference to the uninterrupted connection to the WLAN-Box on the IB.
By the way, the distance to the ground floor or 1st floor doesn’t really help, because that can be immediately above or an additional 8 to 15 meters to the side.
In order to read the connection strength specifically, I would recommend that you call up the WLAN diagnostics menu on the IB and then copy a hard copy of the detailed 5 GHz connection values between the IB and WLAN-Box here into the thread.
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@TiRohn wrote:
So the router is on the ground floor and the WLAN-Box on the 1st floor, both of which are set up near the stairs. The clients are connected to the WÖAN box in different ways, some via cable and some via radio.
The only important thing is that the WLAN-Box itself is connected to the INternetbox via cable - this saves the 99% of the hassle of disconnections.
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@Werner wrote:
If you have not yet assigned the WLAN-Box in the router GUI a fixed IP address outside of the normal dynamically distributed DHCP range of the IB, you can try that again.
The background is that dynamic leases of IP addresses are renewed on the router every 24 hours, and this process could possibly go wrong, which would then cause the WLAN-Box to lose the IP address and thus also the connection.
However, it is not technically clear whether it actually makes a difference to the uninterrupted connection to the WLAN-Box on the IB.
By the way, the distance to the ground floor or 1st floor doesn’t really help, because that can be immediately above or an additional 8 to 15 meters to the side.
In order to read the connection strength specifically, I would recommend that you call up the WLAN diagnostics menu on the IB and then copy a hard copy of the detailed 5 GHz connection values between the IB and WLAN-Box here into the thread.
Thank you very much, I’ll do that with the fixed IP, I haven’t set it up that way yet.
As for the distance, I thought it doesn’t make sense if I give the straight line, a spiral staircase goes up and then another 1 meter to the side…
I’d be happy to read out the connection strength and post it here. I’ll try that this evening…
@POGO 1104 wrote:
@TiRohn wrote:
So the router is on the ground floor and the WLAN-Box on the 1st floor, both of which are set up near the stairs. The clients are connected to the WÖAN box in different ways, some via cable and some via radio.The only important thing is that the WLAN-Box itself is connected to the INternetbox via cable - this saves the 99% of the hassle of disconnections.
That’s definitely not possible unless I use a PowerLAN plug with the WLAN box, but I actually try to avoid that and don’t find it much more stable.
When I measure the data throughput, I always get over 300 Mbit/sec on the 2nd floor, so that’s actually enough for me, it’s more about the sporadic failures, but maybe the fixed IP will help…
So just a ceiling between the Internet box and the WLAN-Box shouldn’t be a problem, I even have a reinforced concrete ceiling in between and have never had any interruptions.
Even two lightweight walls are no problem and you say there are 300Mbit/s, so good values.
Something else must be causing an interruption?
When there is an interruption, does the LED start flashing red on the WLAN-Box? If so, does it no longer work when you carry out paring by pressing the button on the Internet box?
The connection would also only have to be reestablished when the WLAN-Box was switched off and on.
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@TiRohn wrote:
That’s definitely not possible unless I use a PowerLAN plug on the WLAN box, but I actually try to avoid that and don’t find it much more stable.
When I measure the data throughput, I always get over 300 Mbit/sec on the 2nd floor, so that’s actually enough for me, it’s more about the sporadic failures, but maybe the fixed IP will help…
If a cable connection really doesn’t work, then at least the WLAN-Box needs to be set up in a place where WiFi reception is still pretty good.
A fixed IP definitely has no effect at all in terms of connection stability and data throughput
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@WalterB wrote:
So just a ceiling between the Internet box and the WLAN-Box shouldn’t be a problem, I even have a reinforced concrete ceiling in between and have never had any interruptions.
Even two lightweight walls are no problem and you say there are 300Mbit/s, so good values.
Something else must be causing an interruption?
When there is an interruption, does the LED start flashing red on the WLAN-Box? If so, does it no longer work when you carry out paring by pressing the button on the Internet box?
The connection would also only have to be reestablished when the WLAN-Box was switched off and on.
Yes, correct, I think they are reinforced concrete ceilings, but as I said, they are usually stable.
And yes, the LED starts flashing red and a reconnect using the pairing button doesn’t help, I at least have to restart the WLAN-Box.
@POGO 1104 wrote:
@TiRohn wrote:
That’s definitely not possible unless I use a PowerLAN plug in the WLAN box, but I actually try to avoid that and don’t find it much more stable.
When I measure the data throughput, I always get over 300 Mbit/sec on the 2nd floor, so that’s actually enough for me, it’s more about the sporadic failures, but maybe the fixed IP will help…
If a cable connection really doesn’t work, then at least the WLAN-Box needs to be set up in a place where the WiFi reception is still pretty good.
A fixed IP definitely has no effect at all in terms of connection stability and data throughput
Okay, I’ll try the fixed IP anyway, it won’t do any harm, right? As described, the throughput is usually good. I also did the reception test with the Swisscom app when setting it up some time ago and it was also good there….