Theft notebook

  • Hello

    This is a purely preventive request that someone may respond to. If my iPhone is stolen, I can “shoot it down” as soon as I notice the theft.

    I often take my notebook with me on vacation. My data is on Swisscom’s MyCloud. What should be done in the event of theft so that the robbers cannot cause any damage?

    Kind regards

    Bernie

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      • Solutionselected by JanineZ

      Hi @Bernie63,

      You can find more information about device encryption or Bitlocker here. Note that Windows 10 Home does not support this, Windows 11 should be able to do it in all versions, I believe. (Please correct me).

      At Microsoft, the device find function is called “[Find my device](https://support.microsoft.com/de-de/account-billing/lost-windows-device-find-and-lock-890bf25e-b8ba-d3fe- 8253-e98a12f26316)”.

      However, all computers have one problem compared to a smartphone: the function only works if your device is connected to the Internet. This isn’t a problem for a smartphone, but the vast majority of laptops don’t have built-in cellular functionality - in other words, you can click on lock, but as long as the thief isn’t stupid enough to plug in an Ethernet cable or connect the device to a WLAN, nothing will happen .

      That’s why prevention is king in this case. If the hard drive is not encrypted, an experienced Windows admin can reset the user password in under 5 minutes and have full access to your user account (there are various methods). Alternatively, he could also briefly remove the SSD/hard drive and vacuum the data directly. If you use myCloud Desktop, these can be read from the hard drive like normal files. (You can disconnect your laptop from the WiFi and see what you see - that’s exactly what a potential thief has in front of him)

      But if you encrypt the hard drive, the whole thing is more difficult. A run-of-the-mill thief has no chance. I don’t know what it looks like with secret services, but I’m assuming that you are not a target of secret services 😉.

      What doesn’t exist on Windows devices, as far as I know, is activation lock. If someone steals my iPhone or MacBook and I mark it as lost, it is worthless to the thief. Because every Apple device checks with the Apple servers whether it already belongs to someone, even after a complete reset. If this is the case, you have to log in with the previous owner’s Apple ID. If you can’t do that, you have a nice paperweight.

      My devices are completely encrypted and provided with EFI (BIOS) password. In addition, they all have an adhesive on the bottom with a QR code, an email address and a request to return the device because it is worthless to the thief.

      But what should you do if a device is stolen and the hard drive is not encrypted? Then you have to assume that all data on the device is potentially compromised. That means:

      - Change all passwords and end sessions (on most sites this means “log out everywhere” or “log out from all devices”)

      - If you had confidential data on the device, inform the originator

      - Be prepared that the data can be used against you (ID copies are very sensitive, for example)

      In any case:

      - Open a complaint against someone unknown (your insurance will probably require it anyway)

      As you can see, fully encrypting your system will save you a lot of trouble in the event of theft.

      Last but not least: If you are shown a private key/recovery code during setup, keep it safe and in a safe place. If Windows ever shoots itself in the foot or you need to have your laptop repaired (or have it?), you will thank me 😉.

      LG

      r00t

    Hi @Bernie63

    What kind of laptop is it? Depending on the situation, you have different options 😉.

    On Macbooks, for example, there is also the familiar __ search function.

    It is certainly advisable to password protect all accounts and encrypt the data on the hard drive (e.g. with Bitlocker under Windows). A thief can’t do much without a password.

    LG

    r00t

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    Hello r00t

    It’s an HP notebook. The notebook is protected, but as you mention, my __ search function is quite good, and that’s exactly what I’m looking for on a Windows computer. If I understand correctly, there is nothing similar. Protecting it is ok, but we both know that if the notebook falls into the wrong hands, then it will be late if the Find My __ function doesn’t exist. What do you advise me to do if the situation arises?

    Bitlocker on Windows? Is this thing in the control panel?

    Thanks and greetings

    Bernie

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    Hi @Bernie63,

    You can find more information about device encryption or Bitlocker here. Note that Windows 10 Home does not support this, Windows 11 should be able to do it in all versions, I believe. (Please correct me).

    At Microsoft, the device find function is called “[Find my device](https://support.microsoft.com/de-de/account-billing/lost-windows-device-find-and-lock-890bf25e-b8ba-d3fe- 8253-e98a12f26316)”.

    However, all computers have one problem compared to a smartphone: the function only works if your device is connected to the Internet. This isn’t a problem for a smartphone, but the vast majority of laptops don’t have built-in cellular functionality - in other words, you can click on lock, but as long as the thief isn’t stupid enough to plug in an Ethernet cable or connect the device to a WLAN, nothing will happen .

    That’s why prevention is king in this case. If the hard drive is not encrypted, an experienced Windows admin can reset the user password in under 5 minutes and have full access to your user account (there are various methods). Alternatively, he could also briefly remove the SSD/hard drive and vacuum the data directly. If you use myCloud Desktop, these can be read from the hard drive like normal files. (You can disconnect your laptop from the WiFi and see what you see - that’s exactly what a potential thief has in front of him)

    But if you encrypt the hard drive, the whole thing is more difficult. A run-of-the-mill thief has no chance. I don’t know what it looks like with secret services, but I’m assuming that you are not a target of secret services 😉.

    What doesn’t exist on Windows devices, as far as I know, is activation lock. If someone steals my iPhone or MacBook and I mark it as lost, it is worthless to the thief. Because every Apple device checks with the Apple servers whether it already belongs to someone, even after a complete reset. If this is the case, you have to log in with the previous owner’s Apple ID. If you can’t do that, you have a nice paperweight.

    My devices are completely encrypted and provided with EFI (BIOS) password. In addition, they all have an adhesive on the bottom with a QR code, an email address and a request to return the device because it is worthless to the thief.

    But what should you do if a device is stolen and the hard drive is not encrypted? Then you have to assume that all data on the device is potentially compromised. That means:

    - Change all passwords and end sessions (on most sites this means “log out everywhere” or “log out from all devices”)

    - If you had confidential data on the device, inform the originator

    - Be prepared that the data can be used against you (ID copies are very sensitive, for example)

    In any case:

    - Open a complaint against someone unknown (your insurance will probably require it anyway)

    As you can see, fully encrypting your system will save you a lot of trouble in the event of theft.

    Last but not least: If you are shown a private key/recovery code during setup, keep it safe and in a safe place. If Windows ever shoots itself in the foot or you need to have your laptop repaired (or have it?), you will thank me 😉.

    LG

    r00t

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    11 days later

    Hello r00t

    Thank you for this suggested solution. I think I have found the solution there. Since I’m currently on vacation (away from WiFi and a good network), I’ll take a closer look at the matter when I return and follow the steps.

    I thank you.

    Greeting

    Bernie

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    Hello r00t

    Thank you very much. I’m back and I had device encryption enabled. I have a Windows 11 version. So far so good. I’m already relieved. But I don’t notice anything about this device encryption, or should I?

    Regarding Find My Device, you helped me a lot. This was disabled for me and is now enabled.

    So next time I’ll go on vacation with more peace of mind. Without secret service.

    Thanks and greetings

    Bernie

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    • r00t has responded to this post.

      Hi Bernie63,

      But I don’t notice anything about this device encryption, or should I?

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      Other than the open lock in Explorer on the C: drive, you shouldn’t feel any difference.

      In your Microsoft account you should see the recovery key I mentioned here.

      If these two points are met, you are ready for your next vacation 🏖😊.

      LG

      r00t

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