Replace Internet Box 3 with your own router

  • Hello everyone

    I would like to replace the Internet Box 3 with MikroTik CRS312 in order to be able to use 10Gbit/s up to the client.

    Is it possible with this switch router and if so, how/what is needed?

    Thank you in advance for your help

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      • Solutionselected by JoelV

      @Ammax

      Short answer:

      No, because the special XGS-PON encryption requires a Huawei-compatible ONT on the router/modem.

      This currently only seems to be available on the IB3 and on 2 Huawei devices.

      You can find the Huawei presentation on their XGS-PON on the Internet, as well as the currently possible devices with ONT:

      [https://www.tec-forum.ch/FreeTextFiles/Events/4/Documents/11\_Huawei.pdf](https://www.tec-forum.ch/FreeTextFiles/Events/4/Documents/11_Huawei. pdf)

      Whether one of the possible non-IB3 devices can currently be purchased on the open market would then be the subject of further research.

      If you have your own future findings on this topic, please post here again, because there are probably some people who are thinking about how they could get the “full” 10 Gbit into their network.

    @Ammax

    Short answer:

    No, because the special XGS-PON encryption requires a Huawei-compatible ONT on the router/modem.

    This currently only seems to be available on the IB3 and on 2 Huawei devices.

    You can find the Huawei presentation on their XGS-PON on the Internet, as well as the currently possible devices with ONT:

    [https://www.tec-forum.ch/FreeTextFiles/Events/4/Documents/11\_Huawei.pdf](https://www.tec-forum.ch/FreeTextFiles/Events/4/Documents/11_Huawei. pdf)

    Whether one of the possible non-IB3 devices can currently be purchased on the open market would then be the subject of further research.

    If you have your own future findings on this topic, please post here again, because there are probably some people who are thinking about how they could get the “full” 10 Gbit into their network.

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    Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom

    Dear Swisscom

    If there are plans to invite community users as test users for the new 10 Gbit routers (Huawei), I would be very happy to make myself available.

    I have had the new 10 Gbit Anschluss since last week.

    Kind regards

    Andrew

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    Lustig 😉

    The question of how to get the advertised 10 Gbit onto a LAN cable is certainly of general interest and will probably be asked very often…

    The answers will certainly be interesting.

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    Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom

    @Werner the question will probably be asked so often how my email no longer works 😂.

    XGS-PON is no longer a router-neutral technology, but rather a forced router technology,

    Unfortunately, many power speed junkies are not aware of this. (education gap!!!)

    Primary 10 Gbps; Secondary (private network) max. 2.5 Gbit.

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    @Werner wrote:

    The question of how to get the advertised 10 Gbit onto a LAN cable is certainly of general interest and will probably be asked very often…

    The answers will certainly be interesting.


    @Werner

    No, there is only one answer and it should be known by now:

    2.5 Gbps (Eth) + 4 × 1Gbps (Eth) + n Gbps WiFi

    That’s more than the 10 Gig Fiber Anschluss net can deliver.

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    @hed

    This is the stupidest answer so far

    I think everyone is aware that currently with the IB3 the max 2.5Gbit/s for a client is via RJ45

    My original question is also aimed at an alternative device that delivers 10Gbit/s via 1x RJ45. Even back then you could replace the IB2 with your own device.

    The problem at the moment is simply that there are no devices that support the standard.

    For next time.

    To read

    Think

    Constructive answers

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    @Ammax

    I have simply attached Swisscom’s official response to this topic here.

    In addition, the answer was not addressed to you but to Werner.

    So much for reading, thinking, answering.

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    a year later

    @Ammax The new IB 4, which has a 10 GBit/s Ethernet port, is currently in the test phase. I can’t tell you when it will come onto the market.

    [https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Router-Hardware/Now-die-n%C3%A4chste-Generation-der-Internet-Box-testen/td-p/684011] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Router-Hardware/Now-die-n%C3%A4chste-Generation-der-Internet-Box-testen/td-p/684011)

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    Agus fágaimíd siúd mar atá sé

    @Ammax

    Routers that support XGS-PON as an encryption technology for the shared medium for end customers are still relatively rare.

    What has changed in the meantime, however, is that the IB4, which is currently in field testing as can be found here in the forum, is a new pure fiber optic router for Swisscom customers that offers a 10 Gbit LAN port instead of the 2.5 Gbit LAN port. Port has.

    With the upcoming introduction of IB4, the 10 Gbit can now be brought directly into your own LAN.

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    Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom


    @Ammax wrote:

    It’s been over a year now, is there any new information about this?


    In addition to the IB4 already mentioned, the Zyxel AX7501 also works on the Swisscom XGS-PON and with a 10GB LAN port….

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    ….keep on rockin' 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼


    @POGO 1104 wrote:


    @Ammax wrote:

    It’s been over a year now, is there any new information?


    In addition to the IB4 already mentioned, the Zyxel AX7501 also works on the Swisscom XGS-PON and with a 10GB LAN port….


    …don’t forget the Huawei HN8255Ws. Also ran for some time on my Anschluss… 😉

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    #user63


    @Herby wrote:


    @POGO 1104 wrote:


    @Ammax wrote:

    It’s been over a year now, is there any new information about this?


    In addition to the IB4 already mentioned, the Zyxel AX7501 also works on the Swisscom XGS-PON and with a 10GB LAN port….


    … don’t forget the Huawei HN8255Ws. Also ran for some time on my Anschluss… 😉


    @Ammax the Huawei HN8255Ws router is not saveable because you cannot set the SuperAdmin password yourself, only via the hotline or via ACS server.

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